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In Egypt, followers of the Bahai religion have often complain of persecution and even official discrimination. But they have recently made gains in the largely Muslim country. The World’s Aya Batrawy reports from Cairo.

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MARCO WERMAN: There is no First Amendment guarantee of freedom of religion in Egypt. That’s okay if you’re Muslim, Christian, or Jewish. If not it’s been impossible to get a government ID card. But last month an Egyptian court ruled in favor of a follower of the Bahai religion. He and his children can fill out their papers and leave that question on religious identification blank. It’s a step in the right direction for Bahais but Aya Batrawy reports from Cairo that Egyptians Bahais have a long way to go before they’re accepted as equals.

AYA BATRAWY: While it’s never been illegal to be a Bahai in Egypt, being one has never been easy. Amm Ahmed, his wife, and their six children had to flee their rural town of Suhag in southern Egypt due to harassment. In March, fellow residents burned his house down along with those of three other Bahai families. Even now, he is meeting me in a private residence on the outskirts of Cairo away from the public eye and security officials.

AMM AHMED: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

BATRAWY: And it is only in private that Amm Ahmed can practice his faith. Dressed in a traditional Egyptian gallabiya and turban he reads verses from the Bahai holy book as the Muslim call to evening prayer rings out in the background.

AHMED: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

BATRAWY: Although born Bahai he used to work as a reciter of the Quran. He saw nothing wrong with reading the Quran since the Bahai faith embraces it as well as the scriptures of other religions. But soon after he announced he was Bahai both he and his wife were imprisoned for nine months on charges of which he is still unaware. The recent torching of his house because he is Bahai further convinced him the government must do more.

AHMED: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

TRANSLATOR: Egypt can do better than this. It must open a dialogue with Bahais and sit with us and see what we believe in. This way people can relax and we can relax.

BATRAWY: The Bahai faith was founded in the mid-19th century by a Persian named Baha’Ullah. Members believe that God’s will has been revealed by messengers of all the world’s major religions and that world peace will come when humanity recognizes it is one race which worships one God. But many Muslims view the religion as a heretical deviation of Islam and Bahais have long faced persecution particularly in Iran. Here in Egypt Bahais enjoyed some level of recognition until 1960 when the government outlawed their public activities and forced them to misidentify themselves on government documents as either a Muslim, Christian, or Jew. Following years of legal struggle a court ruled earlier this year that Bahais can leave the section under religion as blank on government identification cards and birth certificates. Hossam Bahgat of the Egyptian Initiative for Human Rights.

HOSSAM BAHGAT: There are two ways of looking at this positive court outcome. For Bahais it’s simply a correction of a mistake. But for Egyptians in general it is a significant step in that this is the first time in Egypt’s legal history that there is an administrative system to deal with Egyptians who do not adhere to one of the three state-recognized religions of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism.

RAOUF HINDY: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

BATRAWY: Seated at a café in downtown Cairo Dr. Raouf Hindy enjoys a steaming Turkish coffee as he talks about the court case. He’s a modest hero among fellow Bahais for taking the government to court and winning. His children have just become the first Egyptians to receive the new IDs.

HINDY: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

BATRAWY: He says before this ruling Bahais either had to lie on official papers which could lead to being jailed or they had to function as best they could without documentation. Now he says he’s happy that no one will force him to lie.

But there are delays and complications. Oral Surgeon Dr. Basma Moussa is one of hundreds of Bahais still waiting for the new ID. She asked that the interview be conducted in her car because she’s weary of being interviewed in public. Although she’s been married for over 20 years she doesn’t have a marriage license because the Egyptian government does not recognize Bahai marriages. This means that if she and her husband check into a hotel they have to get separate rooms because unwed Egyptian couples are not legally allowed to rent hotel rooms together. It also means that she cannot file taxes properly, open a bank account, buy a new car, or receive government benefits.

BASMA MOUSSA: [SPEAKING ARABIC]

TRANSLATOR: We’re tired. We’re exhausted. And they keep making things more complicated. Just give me my papers. Since the ruling was made and the order was issued there are complications you can’t even imagine to get the new ID. Now even those who have the new birth certificate cannot marry with this ID because they say they don’t accept the Bahai marriage.

BATRAWY: Bahais still face an uphill battle for acceptance in Egypt. Just last month there protests and arrests after the government announced plans to re-house Bahais whose homes were burnt down. But the new IDs have given them hope that change is coming. For The World this Aya Batrawy in Cairo.


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5 comments for “Religious freedom in Egypt”

  • C. Davis

    I am a member of the community of the Baha’i Faith in the United States. From my perspective,this is a well-written and accurate article. It may interest listeners to know that the Baha’i community has members in every country in the world, as well as amongst a wide range of tribes and ethnic groups. It teaches independent thinking and investigation with regard to religion, the equality of women and men, and the importance of eliminating prejudice. Its sacred Writings advocate loving friendship with followers of other religions, universal education and local and international peace. It has a long-standing relationship with the United Nations as a Non-governmental Organization (NGO). It works for the needs of women, youth and children, the poor and the environment worldwide. Baha’u'llah, the Prophet-Founder of the Baha’i Faith, is seen by Baha’is as the latest Divine Messenger, who has revealed updated teachings from God for the needs of our time. The Baha’i Faith’s writings and practices are available for others to examine and evaluate, such that each may make his/her own informed decision regarding Baha’u'llah’s claim.

  • Victor Rivera

    This is a very good writing. I would encourage all Baha’is that are facing difficult situations in different parts of the world to find avenues by which to let the global community know what is going on in their Country, how the government is treating the Bahais. This internet is a very good tool that we should use well. It is a rope that binds us together no matter how far apart we are physically. We can use this tool to unify ourselves, to talk to our spiritual family that is spread all over the world. If these governments know that we are all looking at them, then it may be that they stop the oppression of Bahai’s. We are a peaceful people, we follow and respect the laws of our countries. We accept everyone and treat them with love and respect. no one can hide their prejudice of others, no one can hide injustice, the others will see what is going on this day. i push one button on this machine and send thousands of copies of what I want to thousands of people in hundreds of countries. More and more the countries of the world depend on each other and it will be of no benefit that they are seen as violators of human rights. This is a new day. How good!

  • Dalia

    Religious Freedom in Egypt is simply a joke! If you’re a Muslim you cannot convert to any other religion, or even denomination. you can only be a Sunni Muslim. Shiites in Egypt, like Baha’is have to hide their identity. And although, theoretically speaking, you can be Jewish, you would not dare declare this, if you are. Needless to say atheism and agnosticism are not tolerated either!you need to write in official papers like your ID or Passport that you are a follower of on the three recognized religions in Egypt: Islam, Christianity, or Judaism. However, if you come from a Muslim family, or just happen to have a Muslim father, then you have to write that you’re a Muslim as well. the laws, in this case, do not allow you to convert to any other religion, not even to Christianity or Judaism. Buddhism and other religions with huge numbers of followers around the world are not recognized! i like to think that there is hope, but the only solution for this farce is the total separation of religion and state and, unfortunately, i don’t see this happening any time soon.

  • http://basmagm.wordpress.com smile rose

    as a bahai we have hope in near future for more harmony & acceptance of other not only in Egypt but in middle east.
    we have a dream in universal peace too

  • ahmad Abdul-Ghaffar

    actually I am a lot more hopefull I think Egypt will eventually go down the religious freedom track and the separation of church and state track but there a lot of work to be done and the liberal movement should do what the Muslim brotherhood are doing which get involved with the people organise charities and especially operate in Muslim brotherhood areas when there influence and popularity decipates then we will be able to simply bring in all the liberal reforms we want but before any basic human rights reform achieve will marred by the ignorant and narrow minded moving into muslim brotherhood ranks