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A Western European country is on our Geo Quiz radar today. It has an unfortunate reputation as a really dull country. But there are plenty of things worth noting about this place. For one thing, it’s home to key institutions of the European Union and the NATO military alliance.

Then there’s the Atomium. That’s a building made of steel balls meant to resemble a molecule. And also in the capital, you’ll find a famous bronze statue of a small boy urinating. That’s a must see.

And yet people still think this country is boring. Recently, a video has popped up on the Internet that uses humor to highlight what the nation has to offer (See below). So what country are we talking about?


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Please note that the video below contains some strong language which could be considered ‘not safe for work’

Do you want to know more about Belgium? from Jerome de Gerlache on Vimeo.

and the answer is Belgium, which has been without a government for more than 100 days. Well, there is a care-taker government but that’s mostly just a place-holder while parties from the Dutch-speaking north and French-speaking south try to form some kind of coalition. There is even talk that the country might eventually have to split apart. Belgium is fractured along cultural, social and political lines that are hard for outsiders to understand but at least most of its citizens agree that the national dish is french fries with mayonnaise. The World’s Clark Boyd has more from Brussels.

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LISA MULLINS: I’m Lisa Mullins and this is The World. Okay, the country we asked you about in today’s Geo Quiz may have the reputation of being kind of boring. But right now things are not so boring in Belgium. Belgium being the answer to our Geo Quiz. Belgium has been without a government for more than 100 days. Well, there is a care-taker government. But that’s mostly a place-holder while parties from the Dutch-speaking north and French-speaking south try to form some kind of coalition. There is even talk that the country might eventually have to split apart. Belgium is fractured along cultural, social and political lines that are hard for outsiders to understand. And that’s why a few Belgians have created a handy animated web video. The World’s Clark Boyd has more from Brussels.

CLARK BOYD:  Filmmaker Jerome de Gerlache says when he grew up in Brussels, he hung out with Dutch and French speaking friends. Language, culture and politics weren’t an issue. A few years ago, de Gerlache moved to Paris and he started to get news from home about linguistic and political tensions threatening to rip his country apart. De Gerlache says people began asking him, “So, what’s the deal with Belgium?”

JEROME DE GERLACHE:  I felt I had to do something, because it was both terrible, but also very funny, because it’s a very surrealistic situation there.

BOYD: De Gerlache decided to play with that situation.

DE GERLACHE: That’s what people like about Belgium when I’m introducing myself as Belgian. We are able to laugh about ourselves, and just okay, we are not taking ourselves seriously, you know?

BOYD: So, he decided to make a short, animated film. It’s called Do You Want to Know More About Belgium?

FEMALE SPEAKER: Belgium has the reputation of being the dullest country in the world, inhabited only by friendly people who eat mussels with french fries with mayonnaise and produce Swiss chocolate.

BOYD: De Gerlache says he wanted to use humor to hook his audience. And poke fun at the, well, more curious aspects of the Belgian political structure.

FEMALE SPEAKER: For over 150 years, Belgium has produced the best experts in engineering the most inefficient political structure. Belgium excels in making everything as complicated as possible, in their three national languages, Dutch, French and German. They have one central government, then they have three regions, each with a government that has as much power as the central government. This is a very good way to make running the country totally impossible.

MARCEL SEL: Obviously I showed the bad side of the Belgian structure.

BOYD:  That’s author and columnist Marcel Sel. Sel wrote the script for the short film, which has had more than a quarter of a million views online. Bart Brinckman is the chief political editor for the leading Flemish daily De Standaard. He thinks Do You Want to Know More about Belgium? is funny. But he also thinks it glosses over a very important philosophical divide between the Flemish and the French-speaking Walloons. It comes down to this. The Flemish think that if you live in Flanders, you should speak Dutch. That’s the law of the land. Belgium’s French-speakers, on the other hand, think they should be able to speak French no matter where they live. And that, Brinckman says, it what makes these compromises so hard.

BART BRINCKMAN: I think Belgium is a very, very complicated country. But things are working here because there are two communities, two different languages, and we try to cooperate together, and that’s not easy to cooperate, but we manage.

BOYD: In the film, the narrator notes that despite everything being “catastrophically complicated” here, “Belgians can’t live together, but they can’t live apart.” That’s been tested in recent weeks, though. Even some in French-speaking Wallonia have started to openly wonder if they should get ready for the dissolution of Belgium. Director Jerome de Gerlache says that fear is spreading.

DE GERLACHE: People in Europe and in the world are afraid for Belgium. Because I don’t know why, people like Belgium as a whole. Really. And people are deeply sad when they think that Belgium is going to split. Everybody’s kind of afraid that Belgium’s going to disappear, you know? And trying to inform them that there is still Belgians who like Belgium and who want Belgium keeping one piece was important for me.

BOYD: One thing both sides seem to agree on, it’s better to be trying to work this out through negotiations, instead of through bloodshed. Even the leader of the Flemish Nationalist Party, which wants in independent Flanders, told reporters last week, “Look, it’s not like we’re the Hutus and the Tutsis.” Many here who want to keep Belgium united aren’t sure whether to laugh, or cry, at that remark. For the World, this is Clark Boyd in Brussels.


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12 comments for “French fries with mayonnaise”

  • Eithe Clarke

    Lat week I returned to the US from a 4-day stay in Brussels, Belgium and it’s as vibrant a country as when I lived there for five years in the 90′s. The weather was even “Floridian”………Nice!
    Instead of fearing that Belgium might disappear, it should be used as a model for “hotspot” countries whose populace are at odds with each oother ie: Israelis and Palestinians, Hutsis and Tutsis(sp?), Northern Sudan and Southern Sudan etc. Next time you go to Brussels treat yourself to awesome mussels at Au Vieux Bruxelles restaurant; it’s only open in months that have an “R” in them.

  • S. Nealis

    Why do you say Belgium has a reputation of being dull? I’ve never thought of it that way — have never heard anyone say that. It’s a fascinating country. And no country that makes that much beer and chocolate could be boring!

    The little boy urinating, Mannequin Pis, is not in the Royal Park. It’s on a busy street corner in the middle of Brussels.

  • Karl Audenaerde

    The “French fries with mayonaise” piece is a standard piece of work to be expected from a nice French speaking person from Brussels, who enjoys a privileged position and is completely clueless. I’m sure he had plenty of Flemish friends – who all spoke perfect French. History and culture are completely ignored, as is the fact that the political landscape is totally different on both sides of the linguistic border: psudo-Marxism (complete with nomenclatura) in the South, centrum-right (think German CDU) in the North. There is absolutely nothing they have in common – can’t even agree on the color of license plates. Every so many years they try to save the status-quo by creating a more complicated structure that costs more and is even less efficient than the previous one. No wonder it takes longer and longer to form a government! A piece of free advice: try to get hold of an editor of the weekly “t’Pallieterke.” You’ll get a balanced version of the Flemish standpoint. And the idea of violence is absurd: if they split, it should follow the Czech model.
    As far as I am concerned, Belgium can disappear retroactively. And I am a Belgian citizen.

    • Frieda Van de Voorde

      Well done Karl Audenaerde! I agree 100%. Unfortunately the international press only listens to the French speaking side of the country.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manneken_Pis Veronique

    I am so disappointed. I listen to the Geo-Quiz and I always think i learn something new. Well, I’ll be more careful about believeing it now.
    Manneken Pis (fountain of a naked little boy peeing) is NOT in Royal Park. It is close to the GrandPlace, on a street corner.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manneken_Pis

  • Ken Vogt

    The narrator states that the Flemish do not accomodate the French speaking citizens in Flanders. When I lived there in the early eighties I found it to be the exact opposite. The French speaking people in Flanders gave the impression they felt they should be able to speak French in Flanders because they were the guest. However they did not return the favor in the south. There the impression was “You are in our territory so you should speak French”. I met many more French speaking Flemish people than Dutch speaking Waloonians (sp?).

  • Nacho

    As Karl said, for people who wishes to know the whole truth, here are some addtional interesting links about Belgium facts (unfortunately in French mostly) :
    - http://blog.marcelsel.com/ (blog of the writer of the video, very well documented, a revelation of past and present Belgium to me)
    - http://bruxelles.blogs.liberation.fr/coulisses/belgique/
    (very interesting site about Belgium from a columnist of one of the most famous newspapers in France)
    - http://www.francophonedebruxelles.com/
    (very critic blog, sometimes harsh but with only true facts)

    Enjoy your readings, and get a balanced version of the Flemish standpoint (and French-speaking -)

  • traveller

    This video about Belgium is actually a poor reflection of what Belgium really is. It’s supposed to be funny, it’s not by a long shot.
    Belgium is a showcase of a country which was constructed as an artificial compromise between France and England, without the slightest input by the majority of the local population, the Flemish.
    The Flemish form 60 % of the population but the Belgian structure allows them no proper decision making whatsoever. There are all kinds of locks on the Flemish decision making incorporated in the Belgian constitution.
    The reason is simple, every Flemish child, pensioner, active and non-active citizen pays 2000 euro, nearly 2.600 US$ per year for the upkeep of the Walloon social security system. That marxist system in the French speaking part of Belgium is the real reason for the Flemish desire to go it alone.
    What the video also omitted was the extraordinary productivity of the population, the biggest petro-chemical industry in the world after Texas, but with no oil reserves, which is not the case in Texas.
    The biggest and best beer production per capita, the best chocolates in the world etc. etc.

  • Jan Lambrechts

    The truth is the most of all in Flanders the opinion about Belgium differs a lot. There is a majority of Flemish people who like Belgium, without worshiping it, but they like it in a cool way, as a country where it is good to live, where it is culturally rich to live. Indeed, the presence of both a germanic culture and a latin culture creates a rather unique and rich cultural environment, and most Flemish people see this as an advantage. There is a smaller group of Flemish people who are not satisfied with Belgium, they see the nearby of the French speaking part of Belgium as a threat. With the commentaries to this articles I see some of these. It is so that on the internet these ‘complaining part of Flemish’ people seem to be a majority, because although it is a smaller part of the Flemish population, they are very active in pronouncing their miscontent. Anyhow, I do think personally that Belgians can indeed be proud of ‘living together in this rather complicated crossroad of cultures’, without violence. In many places of the world it shows that this is not so obvious.

  • Joanne Morse

    My husband and I lived and worked as educators for children of the U.S. military in Germany, the Netherlands, and Belgium from 1978-2002. I taught in the Brussels area from 1998-2001. Those last four years in Belgium were the most delightful of my time living and working in Europe. It really pains me when I learn of Belgians who would gleefully tear apart a country that is NOT dull, that offers incredible cuisine, beautiful parks, terrific jazz, a health system that should be the envy of the world, beautiful countryside, incredibly interesting history. What a depressing statement about the human condition, that Belgians resent paying the taxes for a country that has, for those of us on the outside loking in, achieved savoir vivre. Belgians, take more trips to the rest of the world, see how everyone else has mucked things up, enjoy the excitement of it all. Then go home and realize what a jewel you have and value it!

    • Mehrdad

      How about racism in Belgium?
      I am sure after having livid there for four years you are very well aware of how they treat Turks, Arabs, Africans, Morroccans, etc.
      I am sure you are very well aware of Vlaamse Block?
      I am sure you do know that if one is not blond and blue eyes…their life is very painful and very hard to achieve the same things one can achieve with a little hard work in U.S.?
      You do remember those things, right?

  • Mehrdad

    I used to live and work in Belgium for over 10 years. I lived in the Dutch part, Gent. I have to say Belgium is beautiful country. But what makes Belgium ugly, is it’s people. I have never seen such a hateful racist nation in my entire life. The Vlaamse or the Flemish hate the French speaking and vice Versa, both of them hate all foreigner living in Belgium specially the Turkish and Moroccans. Turks are the people who rebuilt that nation after it was ruined during the WWII, and now the second biggest party in Belgium which is a racist party and one should ask him/her-self how in god’s name in middle of 21st century in middle of the so called civilized part of the world a racist party is the second biggest party in a nation such as Belgium which house to NATO headquarters and Europe’s capital. The name of the party is Vlaamse Blok, it means, The Flemish Block. And their symbol is a pair of yellow boxing gloves which the use in their advertising to hit the face of the foreigners and kick them back to where they come from.
    I grew up going to school in Belgium, and I have to say I have never ever experienced such a hateful racist inhuman life anywhere else then Belgium, all of my teenage years were wasted by teachers telling me to go back to where I come from and students trying to either beat me or steal my exams or my home works right in front of the teach and some times when they would manage to steal my home work in front of the teacher they teacher would walk to me and ask for my homework and then give me zero.
    Ask yourself who were the people who helped Nazi’s catch Jews and send them to concentration camps? Belgians. Who were the people that killed, raped, and destroyed Zaire? Belgians
    Who were the people that raped and BBQ African Hotsis and Tutsis in 1990s Hotsi and Tutsi wars? Belgians

    So what they have beer and chocolate? that makes them cool?

    If you are blond and have blue eyes and don’t open your mouth and speak English or other language you will feel home. But If you have black hair or your skin texture is a little dark they treat the same way blacks were treated in the U.S. in 1900-60.
    Even though I am good looking, not black, and come from a rich family and Spoke their language near perfect they mistreated me as if I was a criminal. Look at them, they have no mercy and compression about their own country man who speak a different language!
    Some one needs to come and either write a book or make a movie about this fascist nation.
    Belgium is ranked number one racist country in Europe. Here is the list of rankings of racist nations in Europe
    1.Belgium
    2.Austria
    3.Italy
    4.France
    5.Germany
    6.Netherlands
    7.Russia

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