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Madiha Tahir reports on the Ahmadis, a minority group in Pakistan that has been violently attacked recently. The Ahmadis consider themselves Mulsim, but Pakistan’s mainstream Muslim groups consider them heretics.

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LISA MULLINS: Radical Islamists aren’t just attacking targets in the West. For decades they’ve ramped up violence against a group in Pakistan called the Ahmadis. Just this springtime, gunmen attacked an Ahmadi mosque. They killed 86 people. Members of the religious sect consider themselves Muslim, but the more mainstream Muslim groups see them as heretics. Madiha Tahir reports from Lahore.

MADIHA TAHIR:  These are the sounds of Eid celebrations earlier this month marking the end of Ramadan. But for the Ahmadi community, the festivities were muted. The community is grieving over the loss of 86 people to terrorism. On May 28th, attackers assaulted two mosques in Pakistan’s second largest city, Lahore, armed with assault rifles, hand grenades and suicide vests. They laid siege to the mosques for hours, spraying worshippers with bullets and lobbing grenades. Fatima Mohsin’s husband, Zakir Mohsin, not their real names, died in the attack. Fatima is afraid of being targeted for speaking out.

SPEAKING URDU

FATIMA MOHSIN: Every Eid, I miss my father and now this time, my children’s father isn’t here either. They miss him so much.

TAHIR: The Ahmaddiya Movement, which Zakir and Fatima belong to, has roughly 4 million followers among Pakistan’s 170 million citizens. The sect is about 120 years old. Ahmadis call themselves Muslim. They believe in the prophet Muhammad, pray five times a day, and read the Qur’an. But, unlike mainstream Muslims who regard Muhammad as the last prophet, Ahmadis believe that there will always be prophets throughout time. They consider their founder, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, one such prophet. Muhammad, they say, was simply the last prophet to bring a holy book. For most Muslims, that’s heresy.

I.A. REHMAN: Ahmadis are the most persecuted minority in Pakistan.

TAHIR: I.A. Rehman is Secretary-General of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. It’s an independent organization that monitors human rights violations in the country.

REHMAN: They are persecuted to a greater extent than other religious minorities.

TAHIR: In fact, Rehman and others believe the attacks may not have turned out so badly if the police had been more active. Fatima says the police outside the mosque did nothing.

SPEAKING URDU

MOHSIN:  For every man inside, there were ten friends and relatives standing outside trying to get in. We were trying to snatch the gun from the police officer and saying let us go in if you won’t.

TAHIR: From video and live footage, the police appeared to engage in sporadic gunfights with the attackers, but overall didn’t do much. Lahore’s Chief of Police, Mohammad Aslam Tareen, says he’s short of snipers, guns and other equipment. He admits that mistakes were made.

MOHAMMAD ASLAM TAREEN: You see, after every incident you have to learn something, what are the shortcomings, what we have to do in the future. And we are revising our strategies.

TAHIR: But Mr. Rehman of the Human Rights Commission says the issue is deeper than lack of training.

REHMAN: We had received information that the conservative elements were going to target these prayer houses. Now the trouble is that those who oppress Ahmadis, the government doesn’t proceed against them. There is an inability or incapacity to protect the Ahmadis.

TAHIR: That’s because it isn’t just the Islamists who’ve declared Ahmadis non-Muslims. So has the Pakistani state itself.

SPEAKING URDU

TAHIR: That’s Zulfikar Ali Bhutto. By 1974, Pakistan had lost its east wing, now Bangladesh, and its largest province, Balochistan, seethed with ethnic tensions. Bhutto’s secular regime looked to the Islamist parties to strengthen his position. So, he acceded to their demands. On September 7, 1974, Parliament unanimously approved a constitutional amendment declaring Ahmadis non-Muslims.

SPEAKING URDU

ZULFIKAR ALI BHUTTO: The problem of the Ahmadis is over 90 years old but the National Assembly has finally decided it. This problem that was over 90 years old has been resolved during our time.

TAHIR: Anti-Ahmadi laws are still in force today. Ahmadis cannot legally call themselves Muslim, perform Muslim prayer nor call their places of worship, mosques. And they have few legal protections. In 2008, a former minister of religious affairs hosted a talk show on Pakistan’s largest television channel. He declared Ahmadis wajib ul-qatl or fit to be killed for their heresy. Within two days, two Ahmadis were murdered. Human rights organizations condemned the broadcast for inciting murder, but no one was punished, and organizations with similar ideologies continue to distribute literature openly today.

SPEAKING URDU

MAULANA SAHIBZADA RASHID AHMAD: Islam allows us to have relations with other sects or groups. But, Islam forbids any relations with those who call themselves Ahmadis.

TAHIR: Maulana Sahibzada Rashid Ahmad runs the Lahore chapter of the Khatm-e-Nubuwwat Movement. The coalition lobbied hard in 1974 to declare Ahmadis non-Muslims. While Maulana Rashid says the May 28th attacks shouldn’t have happened, he also says that under a proper Islamic state, it would be the state’s duty to enact wajib ul-qatl.

SPEAKING URDU

AHMAD: We don’t agree with vigilante justice. In a proper Sharia system, a religious judge would decide, and the state would carry out the judgment. That’s how punishment for those who commit heresy would work. And there’s a special punishment for those people who claim they are Muslims but are really perverting Islam. People who commit this kind of heresy are different from other infidels. In Islam, they are fit to be killed for their heresy.

TAHIR:  While Muslim interpretations of sharia actually vary widely, groups like the Khatm-e-Nabuwwat movement have been pushing their hardline version for political ends. It’s this social context that set the stage for May 28th. I.A. Rehman again.

REHMAN: The state has become fundamentalist. That is the problem. The state appeases all kinds of things in the name of god and religion.

TAHIR: He doesn’t expect that the mosque attackers will be brought to justice.  He says not a single suspect in the murder of an Ahmadi has ever been convicted. Meanwhile, the anti-Ahmadi violence continues to take a very human toll, especially among the families affected by last May’s siege. Fatima’s middle son has been refusing to eat and has nightmares. He saw his father’s blood-soaked body as it was brought home that night. Fatima says she took him to a doctor, but when the specialist found out that the family was Ahmadi, he refused to help. For the World, I’m Madiha Tahir, Lahore, Pakistan.

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25 comments for “Religious minority under threat in Pakistan”

  • Joe

    This is what the radio news ought to do and too rarely does — explain important issues about a complicated country without caricaturing anyone. Kudos to Ms. Tahir, and to PRI for putting her on the air!

    • MBKarim

      This article goes beyond what we hear in the general news and is needed to help us understand the underlying politics of all involved parties as nations look for answers in today’s world. How can we partner with a county to fight terrorism when it is allowed to perpetuate on a daily basis against law abiding citizens?Thanks for a thoughful piece on Pakistan and intolerance.

  • jari Khan

    It is true stoy, going on since inception of Pakistan. There is no justice in Pakistan in this matter. The irony is that whole world has closed their eyes towards this brutal killing of innocent,educated moderated Muslim sect of Islam. the whole world believe in the lip service of Pakistani Government. This is the root cause of terrorism all over the world. Pakistan is only country which allows killing of human being just because of a difference in faith. As long as the world continue to ignore killing of innocent Ahmadies and let the Pakistani Governament do the the lip service, the cancer of terrorism will continue to spread. But everybody should know that the Law in Pakistan allows such killing and it gives terrorists an excuse to kill not only Ahmadies but also other minorities. Since all the routes of terrorism starts and goes through Pakistan. The world has to take action against such a country that oppressed human freedom so much. More than 4 million people are living like a prisoner in their own country and in their own homes

  • Lynn Whitford

    This is a very good report on a subject one hears almost nothing about in the American press. I hope there will be increasing coverage of political, cultural and socio-economic issues inside Pakistan

  • Manan Ahmed

    Thank you for this story.

  • Tahir Butt

    It is an excellent report based on facts.
    For more one can visit
    http://thepersecution.org/

  • http://shamuskhan.com Shamus Khan

    The kind of reporting we need: about the complicated life of Pakistan (not, as is usual, a simplistic rendering). I’m curious about what inspires these moments of increased violence against the Ahmadis. What kind of internal, or external pressures tend to give rise to the Ahmadis being the targets of violence?

  • Janet

    Thank you for bringing light to a subject matter that is not often reported on in the U.S.

  • Bill

    I knew about the prejudice against the Ahmadis. ButI am amazed that the prejudice is enshrined in law, and goes to the extent as justifying killing. The world needs to know about these things. And the U.S. needs to question the nature of its relationship with Pakistan.

    • Salman Idris

      I suggest a letter written by Kunwar Idris to one of the weekly newspaper would also interest you.
      letter by kunwar idris “in which country” published in The Friday Times” (try typing this on google search)
      Salman

  • Alm757

    Thank you very much for an excellent story. We need more journalists like you who are not afraid to speak the truth. For further information about true Islam please visit http://www.askIslam.org

  • Sangeeta

    Thanks for raising my awareness about the Ahmadi plight and their persecution in Pakistan. I appreciate Ms. Tahir’s in-depth and factual reporting of this horrible tragedy. I wish we could see more reporting like this about such events, and specifically, I hope to see continued coverage by Ms. Tahir about the Ahmadi plight. Thanks.

  • Sofia Checa

    Great job, Madiha. That’s exactly the kind of reporting we need.

  • shakeel ahmad

    A sensitive and crucially important issue regarding the fundamental human rights of freedom of conscience and ‘to live’ has been reported in an unbiased, factual and crisp manner, that examplifies what journalism should be about. Well done for the courage and admirable effort.
    The world needs to recognise the extent of religious prejudice in Pakistan and respond to it as strongly as possible. It is no surprise that Pakistan is becoming the breeding ground for terrorists. Pakistan govt will need to make big and bold decisions if they want the country to shift from this dangerously inhuman trend.

  • Salman Idris

    Very informative even for those of us who live in Pakistan.I hope Madiha continues to highlight the plight of Ahmadis in Pakistan.

  • Shahid Mansoor

    Excellent job Madiha.
    Ahamidis and other relegious minorities will be targeted more in the future unless the indiscrimanate murder of women and children committed by US drone attacks STOP.

  • http://www.Alislam.org Muhammad Suleman Shaikh

    It is journalists like Madiha Tahir that bring the oblivous into the lime light, educate the masses and thus bring about a revolution of change. It is because of journalists like her that life becomes worth living and hope gains strength.

    Keep it up Ms. Tahir and go “where eagles dare”.

  • Aaron Bell

    It’s good to see an original piece that sheds light on an issue that is not much discussed in the States. You have done a great service for the oppressed by facilitating awareness regarding this human rights issue. Well done Madiha and keep it up.

  • Arshi Haque

    Ms. Madiha Tahir – an inspirational woman journalist:bold,courageous, lucid and thorough. I look forward to hearing more from Ms Tahir.

  • Surriaya Suleman

    The topic of Ahmadies and Taliban is such that not many in Pakistan dare talk or write about. As soon as someone does his life is threatened. I admire Madiha Tahir for her courage and appreciate a fair and balanced coverage of the issue.

  • Sameea Suleman Safi

    Many people are surprised to hear the history and facts behind the persecution of Ahmadi’s even though they may have lived through it at the time. Thanks Madiha for bringing up the laws and the history behind the injustice.

  • karim

    Madiha i must say is brave enough to speak for the true Ahmadies and the massacre done to its community ….We all should pray for her . And she really has the courage in bringing awareness about the actual happenings in Lahore city which is mostly been suppressed or ignored by most of the columnist whom i feel have really show their cowardice towards this issue .

    • jameela hamid

      nothing happens just my chance this is long over due may ALLAH direct this to the soures which can now do something.

  • Jahan Bashir

    Great article and it lays bare part of Pakistan’s problem with terrorism today. The Pakistani Government is now seeing the result of remaining silent and permitting the persecution of Ahmadis over all these years. Government sanctioned extremism was bound to promote more extremism. As they say, “now the chickens have come home to roost.”

  • Nabahat Nayyrah

    Alhumdulillah Ala zalik
    Madiha baji we are very proud of u