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	<title>Comments on: Why Taxes are Prompting Some Americans in Canada to Renounce their US Citizenship</title>
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		<title>By: CA Free</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22292</link>
		<dc:creator>CA Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Thanksgiving to all you American ex pats and soon to be renounced ex pats. Someone remarked today how hard this holiday is on all of us. Jacobson&#039;s remarks seem especially cold right now. What hollow words given the situation we find ourselves in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Thanksgiving to all you American ex pats and soon to be renounced ex pats. Someone remarked today how hard this holiday is on all of us. Jacobson&#8217;s remarks seem especially cold right now. What hollow words given the situation we find ourselves in.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22241</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 23:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, a new post with a compulsive response to the new &quot;Son of FBAR&quot; the SFFA form 8938 is also posted here...  
http://www.aca.ch/fatcacomm2.pdf
It covers 5 areas.
a) Whether the information is necessary for the agency to perform its dutiesb) The accuracy of the time estimatec) Ways to enhance quality and clarityd) Ways to minimize burden including electronic meanse) Estimates of costs to purchase services to provide information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, a new post with a compulsive response to the new &#8220;Son of FBAR&#8221; the SFFA form 8938 is also posted here&#8230;  <br />
<a href="http://www.aca.ch/fatcacomm2.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aca.ch/fatcacomm2.pdf</a><br />
It covers 5 areas.<br />
a) Whether the information is necessary for the agency to perform its dutiesb) The accuracy of the time estimatec) Ways to enhance quality and clarityd) Ways to minimize burden including electronic meanse) Estimates of costs to purchase services to provide information</p>
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		<title>By: Anon5percent</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22202</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon5percent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems my comment about Form 8938 requiring reporting on non-financial assets is no longer valid. New instructions were released on October 26. You can find them on ACA’s website under “Warning to all Overseas Americans”
http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=492&amp;Itemid=46

The fact does not change that it still is a complicated form and seems to duplicate the FBAR, certainly in terms of penalties. The much loved number of $10,000 is thrown around again, increasing to $50,000.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems my comment about Form 8938 requiring reporting on non-financial assets is no longer valid. New instructions were released on October 26. You can find them on ACA’s website under “Warning to all Overseas Americans”<br />
<a href="http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=492&#038;Itemid=46" rel="nofollow">http://www.aca.ch/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=492&#038;Itemid=46</a></p>
<p>The fact does not change that it still is a complicated form and seems to duplicate the FBAR, certainly in terms of penalties. The much loved number of $10,000 is thrown around again, increasing to $50,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon5percent</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22190</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon5percent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the power to Mark! He and CA Free are right. It’s not taxes. It is the FBAR reporting and associated life altering penalties that are forcing people to make this decision.

In my case, in addition to the fact that I have to live under the threat of huge penalties for a possible minor mistake, FBAR is making my life a real pain when it comes to daily life.

I can no longer live a normal life in the country where I reside and of which I am a citizen because I also have a US passport. It seems that many things which are a normal part of daily life in the electronic world we live in are considered “financial accounts” by the US Treasury and their highest balances must be reported. Among these things are a prepaid phone card, my supermarket card and a lunch card I buy from my company. All are debit cards because money can be put on them and used to pay for things in different places. In the case of my supermarket card, there is no way to find the highest balance out other than to buy something every day and check the balance in a reader in the supermarket. I gave mine up because of this and now probably pay 10-20% more than my fellow countrymen for my groceries. Yes, it is a small inconvenience, but the amount of these small inconveniences seems to grow as societies become more wired and the US Treasury does not take the time to differentiate reporting on what are essentially tax evasion vehicles and what are not.

While it is not the intent of the FBAR regulation to report on cards like I mentioned above, technically they must be reported or bingo – a $10,000 fine for each one of them.

FATCA is making it even worse. I just won a battle with my bank because they told me that Americans could no longer open investment accounts and I refused to accept it and was capitulated to, but the question is for how long?

And then we get to Form 8938 which becomes a part of our tax returns in 2011 and will require reporting on loans, house, car, etc., just because one lives “offshore” and all under threat of $50,000 penalties if a mistake is made. The instructions are not very clear to me, so I am afraid. It also seems that since this type of reporting will now be part of a tax form, the US can force foreign countries to collect penalties for mistakes under tax treaties.

The requirements, threats and invasiveness are exhausting. The only relief in sight appears to be to renounce.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the power to Mark! He and CA Free are right. It’s not taxes. It is the FBAR reporting and associated life altering penalties that are forcing people to make this decision.</p>
<p>In my case, in addition to the fact that I have to live under the threat of huge penalties for a possible minor mistake, FBAR is making my life a real pain when it comes to daily life.</p>
<p>I can no longer live a normal life in the country where I reside and of which I am a citizen because I also have a US passport. It seems that many things which are a normal part of daily life in the electronic world we live in are considered “financial accounts” by the US Treasury and their highest balances must be reported. Among these things are a prepaid phone card, my supermarket card and a lunch card I buy from my company. All are debit cards because money can be put on them and used to pay for things in different places. In the case of my supermarket card, there is no way to find the highest balance out other than to buy something every day and check the balance in a reader in the supermarket. I gave mine up because of this and now probably pay 10-20% more than my fellow countrymen for my groceries. Yes, it is a small inconvenience, but the amount of these small inconveniences seems to grow as societies become more wired and the US Treasury does not take the time to differentiate reporting on what are essentially tax evasion vehicles and what are not.</p>
<p>While it is not the intent of the FBAR regulation to report on cards like I mentioned above, technically they must be reported or bingo – a $10,000 fine for each one of them.</p>
<p>FATCA is making it even worse. I just won a battle with my bank because they told me that Americans could no longer open investment accounts and I refused to accept it and was capitulated to, but the question is for how long?</p>
<p>And then we get to Form 8938 which becomes a part of our tax returns in 2011 and will require reporting on loans, house, car, etc., just because one lives “offshore” and all under threat of $50,000 penalties if a mistake is made. The instructions are not very clear to me, so I am afraid. It also seems that since this type of reporting will now be part of a tax form, the US can force foreign countries to collect penalties for mistakes under tax treaties.</p>
<p>The requirements, threats and invasiveness are exhausting. The only relief in sight appears to be to renounce.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon5percent</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22191</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon5percent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the power to Mark! He and CA Free are right. It’s not taxes. It is the FBAR reporting and associated life altering penalties that are forcing people to make this decision.

In my case, in addition to the fact that I have to live under the threat of huge penalties for a possible minor mistake, FBAR is making my life a real pain when it comes to daily life.

I can no longer live a normal life in the country where I reside and of which I am a citizen because I also have a US passport. It seems that many things which are a normal part of daily life in the electronic world we live in are considered “financial accounts” by the US Treasury and their highest balances must be reported. Among these things are a prepaid phone card, my supermarket card and a lunch card I buy from my company. All are debit cards because money can be put on them and used to pay for things in different places. In the case of my supermarket card, there is no way to find the highest balance out other than to buy something every day and check the balance in a reader in the supermarket. I gave mine up because of this and now probably pay 10-20% more than my fellow countrymen for my groceries. Yes, it is a small inconvenience, but the amount of these small inconveniences seems to grow as societies become more wired and the US Treasury does not take the time to differentiate reporting on what are essentially tax evasion vehicles and what are not.

While it is not the intent of the FBAR regulation to report on cards like I mentioned above, technically they must be reported or bingo – a $10,000 fine for each one of them.

FATCA is making it even worse. I just won a battle with my bank because they told me that Americans could no longer open investment accounts and I refused to accept it and was capitulated to, but the question is for how long?

And then we get to Form 8938 which becomes a part of our tax returns in 2011 and will require reporting on loans, house, car, etc., just because one lives “offshore” and all under threat of $50,000 penalties if a mistake is made. The instructions are not very clear to me, so I am afraid. It also seems that since this type of reporting will now be part of a tax form, the US can force foreign countries to collect penalties for mistakes under tax treaties.

The requirements, threats and invasiveness are exhausting. The only relief in sight appears to be to renounce.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the power to Mark! He and CA Free are right. It’s not taxes. It is the FBAR reporting and associated life altering penalties that are forcing people to make this decision.</p>
<p>In my case, in addition to the fact that I have to live under the threat of huge penalties for a possible minor mistake, FBAR is making my life a real pain when it comes to daily life.</p>
<p>I can no longer live a normal life in the country where I reside and of which I am a citizen because I also have a US passport. It seems that many things which are a normal part of daily life in the electronic world we live in are considered “financial accounts” by the US Treasury and their highest balances must be reported. Among these things are a prepaid phone card, my supermarket card and a lunch card I buy from my company. All are debit cards because money can be put on them and used to pay for things in different places. In the case of my supermarket card, there is no way to find the highest balance out other than to buy something every day and check the balance in a reader in the supermarket. I gave mine up because of this and now probably pay 10-20% more than my fellow countrymen for my groceries. Yes, it is a small inconvenience, but the amount of these small inconveniences seems to grow as societies become more wired and the US Treasury does not take the time to differentiate reporting on what are essentially tax evasion vehicles and what are not.</p>
<p>While it is not the intent of the FBAR regulation to report on cards like I mentioned above, technically they must be reported or bingo – a $10,000 fine for each one of them.</p>
<p>FATCA is making it even worse. I just won a battle with my bank because they told me that Americans could no longer open investment accounts and I refused to accept it and was capitulated to, but the question is for how long?</p>
<p>And then we get to Form 8938 which becomes a part of our tax returns in 2011 and will require reporting on loans, house, car, etc., just because one lives “offshore” and all under threat of $50,000 penalties if a mistake is made. The instructions are not very clear to me, so I am afraid. It also seems that since this type of reporting will now be part of a tax form, the US can force foreign countries to collect penalties for mistakes under tax treaties.</p>
<p>The requirements, threats and invasiveness are exhausting. The only relief in sight appears to be to renounce.</p>
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		<title>By: CA Free</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2011/11/why-taxes-are-prompting-some-americans-in-canada-to-renounce-their-us-citizenship/comment-page-1/#comment-22077</link>
		<dc:creator>CA Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 12:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great interview! For me it&#039;s nothing to do with &quot;taxes&quot; It&#039;s FBAR and the penalty that goes along with it. The penalties on FBAR reporting are so onerous that few could afford them. FBAR reporting was meant to deal with drug lords, criminals and those who off shore millions from within the U.S. but,it&#039;s being used in such a ham fisted manner against people who didn&#039;t even owe any tax, it&#039;s hard to go along with such threats. The second reason has to do with having to report, like Mark my Canadian spouses accounts. I don&#039;t mind reporting income I&#039;ve made but, I haven&#039;t made any. I have a joint account I pay bills out of but, all the money in the account was made by a foreign person and the treasury and IRS want me to report HIS accounts too. Also, any account my child has that I had my name on would be reported even though my child is not American. The same as Mark, I do not want to have to report on my foreign family to the IRS. Just because I have &quot;signing rights&quot; on an account doesn&#039;t mean I made any monies in the account or can spend that money any way I want to. It&#039;s too far over reaching with regard to the new &quot;Hire&quot; legislation and FATCA/FBAR. I fear what they will require next as this is quite unfair already. I don&#039;t feel I have any choice here either. I can either report on my foreign family *not just me* or I can renounce. I&#039;ll renounce though I never would have owed them any tax, and I never would have done it if not for this new legislation and penalties. Thank you for covering this and thank you to Mark for telling your story. Canada is hardly a &quot;tax haven&quot; so the reasoning for using a hammer to go after minnow escapes me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great interview! For me it&#8217;s nothing to do with &#8220;taxes&#8221; It&#8217;s FBAR and the penalty that goes along with it. The penalties on FBAR reporting are so onerous that few could afford them. FBAR reporting was meant to deal with drug lords, criminals and those who off shore millions from within the U.S. but,it&#8217;s being used in such a ham fisted manner against people who didn&#8217;t even owe any tax, it&#8217;s hard to go along with such threats. The second reason has to do with having to report, like Mark my Canadian spouses accounts. I don&#8217;t mind reporting income I&#8217;ve made but, I haven&#8217;t made any. I have a joint account I pay bills out of but, all the money in the account was made by a foreign person and the treasury and IRS want me to report HIS accounts too. Also, any account my child has that I had my name on would be reported even though my child is not American. The same as Mark, I do not want to have to report on my foreign family to the IRS. Just because I have &#8220;signing rights&#8221; on an account doesn&#8217;t mean I made any monies in the account or can spend that money any way I want to. It&#8217;s too far over reaching with regard to the new &#8220;Hire&#8221; legislation and FATCA/FBAR. I fear what they will require next as this is quite unfair already. I don&#8217;t feel I have any choice here either. I can either report on my foreign family *not just me* or I can renounce. I&#8217;ll renounce though I never would have owed them any tax, and I never would have done it if not for this new legislation and penalties. Thank you for covering this and thank you to Mark for telling your story. Canada is hardly a &#8220;tax haven&#8221; so the reasoning for using a hammer to go after minnow escapes me. </p>
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