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	<title>Comments on: Growing Rift Between Hong Kong and Mainland China</title>
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		<title>By: steven</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-26523</link>
		<dc:creator>steven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit bro you are biggest anti Mainlanders haters i ever seen and HK is not only city in china where they hate &#039;&#039;locust&#039;&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit bro you are biggest anti Mainlanders haters i ever seen and HK is not only city in china where they hate &#8221;locust&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony O'Neal</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-25180</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony O'Neal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: klevis</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24987</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are one crazy dog!!</description>
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		<title>By: klevis</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cantokaraoke, you should understand that we in the west have also a very complex situation because Hong Kong was a colony. What moral right do we have to &quot;ask to China not to further integrate with one of their provinces which we occupied in a war&quot;? I totally agree with you and I want Hong Kong to be the free and democratic society that has always been, but our position is compromised. Also keep in mind that the troubles of Hong Kong do not qualify for international negotiations in the same scale as Tibet, Taiwan and internal lack of freedom in China. Even California and Miami in US have the same problems as you guys but with the Mexicans. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cantokaraoke, you should understand that we in the west have also a very complex situation because Hong Kong was a colony. What moral right do we have to &#8220;ask to China not to further integrate with one of their provinces which we occupied in a war&#8221;? I totally agree with you and I want Hong Kong to be the free and democratic society that has always been, but our position is compromised. Also keep in mind that the troubles of Hong Kong do not qualify for international negotiations in the same scale as Tibet, Taiwan and internal lack of freedom in China. Even California and Miami in US have the same problems as you guys but with the Mexicans. </p>
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		<title>By: klevis</title>
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		<dc:creator>klevis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blueblood, I am not an Hong Konger but the only thing which develops regions and countries is the law. The law is like a software which tells people how to interact with each other and is the backbone of any society. 
As an empirical experiment you can look at all the countries which adopted the anglo-saxon law: US, Australia, New Zeland, Canada, Hong Kong all turned out pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blueblood, I am not an Hong Konger but the only thing which develops regions and countries is the law. The law is like a software which tells people how to interact with each other and is the backbone of any society. <br />
As an empirical experiment you can look at all the countries which adopted the anglo-saxon law: US, Australia, New Zeland, Canada, Hong Kong all turned out pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: peterspc</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24982</link>
		<dc:creator>peterspc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2012 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: guo cheng</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24763</link>
		<dc:creator>guo cheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cantonese is just like the ebonics of the chinese language.ebonics is the dialect or vernacular form of American English spoken by a large proportion of African Americans. it developed from contacts between African langauges and nonstandard varieties of colonial English spoken by white americans in the southern states(the cotton plantation states where the african slaves worked). ebonics is used in the home or for day-to-day communication rather than for formal occasions. It typically diverges most from standard American English when spoken by people with low levels of education.cantonese is a dialect of chinese spoken by a large proportion of ppl living in the southern most area(guangdong and guangxi) of china. it is developed from contacts between southern indigenous languages (such as vietnamese, zhuang, tai,etc) and nonstandard colloquial chineses spoken by migrant chinese(such as soldiers and prisoners) from central china. its accent and spoken form is more influenced by the indigenous languages as the chinese migrants married the southern indigenous women and their children’s speech is more influenced by their mother’s tongue than father’s (which is why cantonese accent actually sounds more similar to vietnamese and thai than other chinese dialects). they adopt the written form of standard chinese as none of the indigenous languages had developed a written form. as a result the spoken form and the written form have never been compatible. vietnamese used to adopt chinese characters for writing before the french came.the warm weather in the south and the segregation of the cantonese-speaking area from the rest of china by mountains slow down the evolution of the language (as well as the ppl&#039;s brain and look there), making cantonese one of the least evolved regional dialects of the chinese language. less evolved means the language is less well regulated and less well developed and its pronouciation less pleasant to ears, which is why cantonese sounds harsh to many foreign ears. it has always been the least respected dialect in china and its accent is often mocked meanspiritedly. the connotations tagged on cantonese have hardly ever been positive. for example, the cantonese language and its speakers are often viewed as being less civilized by other chinese.despite hong kong’s success has little to do with the cantonese language or its culture, the glory might have given a bit twist of fate for cantonese but its destined to be only delusional and short-lived unless the cantonese ppl can upgrade their gene pool to become aesthetically appealing enough to project cultural influences to the other chinese. it has never happened in the last 2000 years though.the cultural centres in china has always been along the yellow river(xi&#039;an, luoyang,kaifeng, beijing, ji&#039;nan) and the yangzi(or changjiang) river(hanzhou, nanjing, shanghai). pearl river delta has always been the recieving end of cultural influence from the north through out history. in the last 1000yrs, half of the time china was ruled by horseback nomads from the north(mongol 200yrs, manchu 300yrs), whereas the southern tribes were never considered as any serious threat by central china. many southerners were even driven off their homeland to further south.if one wonders why cantonese is widely spoken among overseas chinese communities, some background check on the history of chinese emigration should help. a couple hundred yrs back, chinese were still non-migratory ppl and would not seek fortunes away from homeland unless they were driven desperate. most of the early chinese emigrants to the west represented the lowest level of human resources in china.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cantonese is just like the ebonics of the chinese language.ebonics is the dialect or vernacular form of American English spoken by a large proportion of African Americans. it developed from contacts between African langauges and nonstandard varieties of colonial English spoken by white americans in the southern states(the cotton plantation states where the african slaves worked). ebonics is used in the home or for day-to-day communication rather than for formal occasions. It typically diverges most from standard American English when spoken by people with low levels of education.cantonese is a dialect of chinese spoken by a large proportion of ppl living in the southern most area(guangdong and guangxi) of china. it is developed from contacts between southern indigenous languages (such as vietnamese, zhuang, tai,etc) and nonstandard colloquial chineses spoken by migrant chinese(such as soldiers and prisoners) from central china. its accent and spoken form is more influenced by the indigenous languages as the chinese migrants married the southern indigenous women and their children’s speech is more influenced by their mother’s tongue than father’s (which is why cantonese accent actually sounds more similar to vietnamese and thai than other chinese dialects). they adopt the written form of standard chinese as none of the indigenous languages had developed a written form. as a result the spoken form and the written form have never been compatible. vietnamese used to adopt chinese characters for writing before the french came.the warm weather in the south and the segregation of the cantonese-speaking area from the rest of china by mountains slow down the evolution of the language (as well as the ppl&#8217;s brain and look there), making cantonese one of the least evolved regional dialects of the chinese language. less evolved means the language is less well regulated and less well developed and its pronouciation less pleasant to ears, which is why cantonese sounds harsh to many foreign ears. it has always been the least respected dialect in china and its accent is often mocked meanspiritedly. the connotations tagged on cantonese have hardly ever been positive. for example, the cantonese language and its speakers are often viewed as being less civilized by other chinese.despite hong kong’s success has little to do with the cantonese language or its culture, the glory might have given a bit twist of fate for cantonese but its destined to be only delusional and short-lived unless the cantonese ppl can upgrade their gene pool to become aesthetically appealing enough to project cultural influences to the other chinese. it has never happened in the last 2000 years though.the cultural centres in china has always been along the yellow river(xi&#8217;an, luoyang,kaifeng, beijing, ji&#8217;nan) and the yangzi(or changjiang) river(hanzhou, nanjing, shanghai). pearl river delta has always been the recieving end of cultural influence from the north through out history. in the last 1000yrs, half of the time china was ruled by horseback nomads from the north(mongol 200yrs, manchu 300yrs), whereas the southern tribes were never considered as any serious threat by central china. many southerners were even driven off their homeland to further south.if one wonders why cantonese is widely spoken among overseas chinese communities, some background check on the history of chinese emigration should help. a couple hundred yrs back, chinese were still non-migratory ppl and would not seek fortunes away from homeland unless they were driven desperate. most of the early chinese emigrants to the west represented the lowest level of human resources in china.</p>
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		<title>By: guo cheng</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24762</link>
		<dc:creator>guo cheng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 09:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i wonder what the cantonese ppl were like 100yr ago? could the picture be of a reflection from the not so distant past? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i wonder what the cantonese ppl were like 100yr ago? could the picture be of a reflection from the not so distant past? </p>
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		<title>By: Blueblood123</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24286</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueblood123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bet you&#039;re one of those HK gays or unsuccesful Hong Kongers who need to use the British excuse to prove yourself your an failure.


Who build Hong Kong? WE DID.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet you&#8217;re one of those HK gays or unsuccesful Hong Kongers who need to use the British excuse to prove yourself your an failure.</p>
<p>Who build Hong Kong? WE DID.</p>
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		<title>By: Blueblood123</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24285</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueblood123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you even Chinese to say something so embarrassing. You think Hong Kong was built by British just because they gave us their laws and education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you even Chinese to say something so embarrassing. You think Hong Kong was built by British just because they gave us their laws and education.</p>
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		<title>By: Blueblood123</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-24284</link>
		<dc:creator>Blueblood123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the difference between the successful and educated Hong Kongers compared to the unsuccesful and less education Hong Konger.

Educated Hong Kongers will tell you that it was Hong Kong Chinese who build the city and made it wealthy

Uneducated Hong Kongers would think only British was responsible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the difference between the successful and educated Hong Kongers compared to the unsuccesful and less education Hong Konger.</p>
<p>Educated Hong Kongers will tell you that it was Hong Kong Chinese who build the city and made it wealthy</p>
<p>Uneducated Hong Kongers would think only British was responsible.</p>
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		<title>By: Taipan</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-23897</link>
		<dc:creator>Taipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A picture tells a thousand words, I rest my case.  Get these filthy ANIMALS off our city, our streets and our way of life.  Uncivilised behaviours, and the citizens of Hong Kong are Imperial dogs and bastards?  At least we know how to use a bathroom and we have manners.   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A picture tells a thousand words, I rest my case.  Get these filthy ANIMALS off our city, our streets and our way of life.  Uncivilised behaviours, and the citizens of Hong Kong are Imperial dogs and bastards?  At least we know how to use a bathroom and we have manners.   </p>
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		<title>By: cantokaraoke</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-23894</link>
		<dc:creator>cantokaraoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most Mainland Chinese who study in Hong Kong universities belong to Communist Youth League of China. She has essentially no creditably because she&#039;s a communist. 
Western media reporters are self-righteous hypocrites. While they are grinding their teeth for Tibetan, when the same things happen in Hong Kong, they call it &quot;integration&quot;. Tibet is also part of China. What&#039;s wrong with integration with China? If they think this is problematic because Tibetan are not willing to be part of China, Then Hong Kong is also the same.Uncouth behavior by Mainland Chinese reporters. Why don&#039;t western media report on this?http://badcanto.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/conflict-erupted-between-hong-kong-and-mainland-chinese-reporters-in-the-press-conference-of-double-negative/Also, I wonder if the following picture is acceptable in the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Mainland Chinese who study in Hong Kong universities belong to Communist Youth League of China. She has essentially no creditably because she&#8217;s a communist. <br />
Western media reporters are self-righteous hypocrites. While they are grinding their teeth for Tibetan, when the same things happen in Hong Kong, they call it &#8220;integration&#8221;. Tibet is also part of China. What&#8217;s wrong with integration with China? If they think this is problematic because Tibetan are not willing to be part of China, Then Hong Kong is also the same.Uncouth behavior by Mainland Chinese reporters. Why don&#8217;t western media report on this?<a href="http://badcanto.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/conflict-erupted-between-hong-kong-and-mainland-chinese-reporters-in-the-press-conference-of-double-negative/Also" rel="nofollow">http://badcanto.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/conflict-erupted-between-hong-kong-and-mainland-chinese-reporters-in-the-press-conference-of-double-negative/Also</a>, I wonder if the following picture is acceptable in the West.</p>
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		<title>By: flamerdoosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>flamerdoosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> So just because spitting &quot;is not the norm,&quot; you automatically assume it doesn&#039;t happen and she&#039;s a liar? In your opinion, any report that indicates Hong Kong citizens are not perfect angels are automatically false? Which side is the rude one again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> So just because spitting &#8220;is not the norm,&#8221; you automatically assume it doesn&#8217;t happen and she&#8217;s a liar? In your opinion, any report that indicates Hong Kong citizens are not perfect angels are automatically false? Which side is the rude one again?</p>
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		<title>By: Taipan</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2012/02/hong-kong-mainland-china-rift/comment-page-1/#comment-23692</link>
		<dc:creator>Taipan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again and Bravo Sin San,

Sin San hitted it right in the head, there is no BUT and AND about it, the mainlanders are mostly rude, ill-mannered and they think their crap don&#039;t stink.  Funny how a little wealth or money can really change or modify the less educated ones.  Back in the late 70&#039;s, I went to China as they attempted to open their DOORS to foreigners, Hong Kong citizens were considered foreigners like Westerners as we were considered filths and scums because we were taken care of by the British.  They looked at us funny, stared at our clothings simply because we wore high end European clothings and dear Budda how dare men wore RED colour, that was a girly colour in China.  Hate to disappoint them at that time but Hong Kong citizens just did not wear jumpsuit in green and a hat with a red star.  With the change in China and especially near the Canton area, Hong Kong developers started to buy land in that area and guess what, the Mainlanders started to get a taste of money, a lifestyle that once was sinful to them but yet feel so good.  A better lifestyle comes with responsibilities, manners and self-examinations which means you need to have better hygiene, better communication skills, better education, better respect to others and better self control/manners.  Simply because you have a bucket full of money dropped on your lap, that money alone cannot make you a better person with proper manners and social skills nor will the money buy you respect and popularities.

I saw an article a few weeks back and one of our fine Hong Kong citizens pointed out that Mainlanders can spend tons of money buying LV, Prada, Gucci, etc. but when they put the expensive items on themselves, it looks like LV, Prada, Gucci threw up on their bodies.  I suppose when someone spit on our streets wearing LV, Prada and Gucci, we should be proud of them...NOT!  Sure we have poor citizens in Hong Kong and some of us are not too well mannered but most of us are decent educated, taught how to behave in public and behind closed doors and we obey the laws and sure they are British laws so get over it.  Hong Kong has been a world class city because of our heritage from the British and even though we were classified as Colonist, the British treated us well even though they didn&#039;t have to.  If you look at all the colonies the British once had, Hong Kong came out to be the Jewel of all and personally I thank the British and Her Majesty for building up Hong Kong to be one of the world&#039;s best place to live.  I understand Professor Piggy from China didn&#039;t like our ways of life, we are dogs and bastards, etc. but at least we are the show dogs of the world and we are not having an identity crisis.  Hong Kong is the best place to do business, we are aware of our role as a world class city, we keep our city clean and our citizens at bay.  Bad air pollutions in Hong Kong is not our fault, it is the sole responsibilities of China and we all know how responsible they are in controlling pollutions of any kind.  We are doing our best to support our ways of life and we welcome anyone who shares our opinions, our duties, our respect, our laws and please LEAVE if you cannot obey, follow and respect our little city.  Go far away as you can, hanging around Imperial dogs and bastards MAY BE dangerous to your health and your ageing ways of thinking.  I&#039;m not sure if Confucius would stand behind the Mainlanders on this one, so sorry Professor Piggy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again and Bravo Sin San,</p>
<p>Sin San hitted it right in the head, there is no BUT and AND about it, the mainlanders are mostly rude, ill-mannered and they think their crap don&#8217;t stink.  Funny how a little wealth or money can really change or modify the less educated ones.  Back in the late 70&#8242;s, I went to China as they attempted to open their DOORS to foreigners, Hong Kong citizens were considered foreigners like Westerners as we were considered filths and scums because we were taken care of by the British.  They looked at us funny, stared at our clothings simply because we wore high end European clothings and dear Budda how dare men wore RED colour, that was a girly colour in China.  Hate to disappoint them at that time but Hong Kong citizens just did not wear jumpsuit in green and a hat with a red star.  With the change in China and especially near the Canton area, Hong Kong developers started to buy land in that area and guess what, the Mainlanders started to get a taste of money, a lifestyle that once was sinful to them but yet feel so good.  A better lifestyle comes with responsibilities, manners and self-examinations which means you need to have better hygiene, better communication skills, better education, better respect to others and better self control/manners.  Simply because you have a bucket full of money dropped on your lap, that money alone cannot make you a better person with proper manners and social skills nor will the money buy you respect and popularities.</p>
<p>I saw an article a few weeks back and one of our fine Hong Kong citizens pointed out that Mainlanders can spend tons of money buying LV, Prada, Gucci, etc. but when they put the expensive items on themselves, it looks like LV, Prada, Gucci threw up on their bodies.  I suppose when someone spit on our streets wearing LV, Prada and Gucci, we should be proud of them&#8230;NOT!  Sure we have poor citizens in Hong Kong and some of us are not too well mannered but most of us are decent educated, taught how to behave in public and behind closed doors and we obey the laws and sure they are British laws so get over it.  Hong Kong has been a world class city because of our heritage from the British and even though we were classified as Colonist, the British treated us well even though they didn&#8217;t have to.  If you look at all the colonies the British once had, Hong Kong came out to be the Jewel of all and personally I thank the British and Her Majesty for building up Hong Kong to be one of the world&#8217;s best place to live.  I understand Professor Piggy from China didn&#8217;t like our ways of life, we are dogs and bastards, etc. but at least we are the show dogs of the world and we are not having an identity crisis.  Hong Kong is the best place to do business, we are aware of our role as a world class city, we keep our city clean and our citizens at bay.  Bad air pollutions in Hong Kong is not our fault, it is the sole responsibilities of China and we all know how responsible they are in controlling pollutions of any kind.  We are doing our best to support our ways of life and we welcome anyone who shares our opinions, our duties, our respect, our laws and please LEAVE if you cannot obey, follow and respect our little city.  Go far away as you can, hanging around Imperial dogs and bastards MAY BE dangerous to your health and your ageing ways of thinking.  I&#8217;m not sure if Confucius would stand behind the Mainlanders on this one, so sorry Professor Piggy.</p>
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