Three Veterans, Three Stories

Ben Hartford with his family. (Photo: Ben Hartford)

Ben Hartford with his family. (Photo: Ben Hartford)

Our coverage today is driven by veterans.

Here’s sample of stories veterans told us about their transition after coming home.

Ben Hartford of New Hampshire talks about the mask he wears in public to hide the pain he still feels.
“It took a 225 lb fighting machine breaking down, crying in the shower, alone, for me to realize something was wrong” he says.


Matthew Holzmann

Matthew Holzmann


Matthew Holzmann in Florida speaks of his loss of importance and loss of purpose, and his anger at self-absorbed civilians.


Carrie Donoho

Carrie Donoho


Carrie Donoho in California shares how she fell in love with her husband all over again.


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Marco Werman: Our program today is entirely devoted to veterans of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. We’ve asked them and their families to share their homecoming experiences with us. Hundreds of responses have poured in and those stories are driving our coverage this hour. We’re going to hear three stories now about how hard it’s been for many vets to re-adjust to civilian life.

Ben Hartford: My name is Ben Hartford from Hillsborough, New Hampshire. I served two tours in Afghanistan with the U.S. Army’s 82nd Airborne Division. My homecoming was surreal. Sometimes I wonder if everyone around is walking with a mask on, or if I am the one with the mask on. I left my wife and infant daughter and came back to my wife, toddler daughter and infant son, and then there was everything in between. Nobody said what I was feeling was okay. Nobody even mentioned anything at all like I was feeling. My wife didn’t know what I was feeling till much later. I did my job in Afghanistan. I am proud to have done my job. When I came home, I had soldiers to train and I’m proud to have trained those soldiers. Every morning was get up, go run, fight, push-ups, climb a rope, always fighting something. It took a 225 pound fighting machine breaking down, crying in the shower, alone, for me to realize that something was wrong. I still avoid the news. The soldier in Kandahar Province…terrible. Eventually, I spent a week at the V.A. Hospital in White River Junction, Vermont. They changed my meds. They’ve since changed my meds again. Given all that, but for missing my children and my wife, I would go back. So, I guess I’m angry and happy and numb, very numb; that’s my mask then, isn’t it? I guess that’s my 90 seconds.

Matthew Holzmann: I’m Matt Holzmann from Orlando, Florida. I served one tour in Afghanistan with the United States Marine Corp. When you’re in country, you wake up with an unparalleled sense of purpose that disappears the day you get home. Suddenly, you come home to all the news that nobody wanted to bother you with while you were deployed – the friends past that died; the divorces that happened; the friends that were laid off. You come home to endless, unthinkable choices like 30 types of cereal – truly overwhelming choice. So, what’s it like coming home? It was frustrating because your sense of purpose is gone. It was maddening to hear the petty problems that upset civilians going about their everyday lives two weeks after one of your brothers was blown up. I was in line for groceries one day and some woman was yelling at the checkout counter about an expired coupon. I wanted so badly to slap her and tell her about Lance Corporal Swanson that just gave his life for her security. Instead, I walked away. I struggled for months with similar experiences.

Carrie Donoho: I am Carrie Donoho from Los Angeles, California. I served one tour in Kuwait and Iraq with the U.S. Army. I had very mixed feelings about coming home because, for me, coming home was coming home to Germany, my permanent duty station. I was deployed at the very beginning of the war when there were no toilets, no showers, we couldn’t call home very frequently and when we did it was usually in a public setting where everyone else was waiting to call home. After being gone for so long, the anticipation of returning was really very strange. My battalion had become my family and my husband had really become a stranger. When I returned, it was awkward for both of us. I felt like there was an entire part of my life that he had missed and he felt like there was an entire part of his life that I had missed. It was really stressful and hard on both of us. I went to Portugal to just think about things for a little while and the day after I got there my husband called and said, “I’m at the airport and I’m coming to your hotel.” When I knew he was coming, I had butterflies in my stomach and at that point I knew everything was going to be fine. So, to my surprise, the most amazing part of coming back was having the chance of falling in love with the same great person all over again.

Werman: Amazing stories from vets, all of them. We have more online. See some of the veterans who shared their stories via video at theworld.org/return.

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Discussion

12 comments for “Three Veterans, Three Stories”

  • George Broyles

    Thank you very much for this coverage. It is good to recognize our veterans, the service they gave and continue to give our country and the ongoing challenges they face. Thanks for bringing these tragic wars into focus.

  • http://mindprod.com roedygreen

    The vets knew perfectly well that Afghanistan and Iraq did not and could not attack the USA.  They knew their service had nothing whatsoever to do with defending the USA. They went for the adventure and the blood lust.  I have ABSOLUTELY no sympathy for them.  Besides, aiding and abetting an aggressive war is a capital war crime. 

    • Carrie Donoho

      Many of us joined before any of the conflicts began. Many of us went because we made a commitment to serve and to ensure that the soldiers we trained do not come into harms way – a lesson that I learned from my platoon sergeant and warrant officer, and my husband who went back to Iraq after his two-week leave with a broken ankle. Many of us served in Bosnia and Kosovo. We serve for many reasons, and unless you have served, it is very difficult for you to assess the motivations of others that have.

    • Rob Prager

      I am sure this is coming from someone who has never served anything or anyone but themselves.  If you have war issues don’t spread them here, this is a positive article to honor and acknowledge AMERICANS who have served their country.  Take your issues up with the politicians, not the soldiers.  

      It’s tough being Canadian, eh!?  

      • https://www.williammcpherson.tumblr.com/ William McPherson

        What, precisely, does being Canadian have to do with this? Canadians served in Afghanistan, they took casualties in Afghanistan, 12 of them (4 dead, 8 severely wounded)  the result of Americans dropping a bomb on a training exercise, thinking they were enemy soldiers. I am not endorsing the unfortunate remarks of Roedygreen. I don’t know anything about this person or who they may have served or not served. I suspect you don’t either.

      • https://www.williammcpherson.tumblr.com/ William McPherson

        What, precisely, does being Canadian have to do with this? Canadians served in Afghanistan, they took casualties in Afghanistan, 12 of them (4 dead, 8 severely wounded)  the result of Americans dropping a bomb on a training exercise, thinking they were enemy soldiers. I am not endorsing the unfortunate remarks of Roedygreen. I don’t know anything about this person or who they may have served or not served. I suspect you don’t either.

  • Rob Prager

    Carrie Donoho is beautiful!

  • http://www.facebook.com/htrainer1 Harold Trainer

    In January, the White House and Pentagon announced
    the FY 2013 defense budget proposal would include nearly $500 billion in cuts
    over the next ten years, with a significant share of the cuts being absorbed in
    personnel, compensation, health care and other military benefits.

     

    Health Care

    *  Establish a $300 per person annual enrollment
    fee for TRICARE For Life (TFL)

     

    *  Impose an additonal $500 annual deductible for
    TFL and limit TFL coverage to 50 percent of the next $5000 iin medical
    costs.

     

    *  Raise TRICARE Standard fees by $1000 to $2000 a
    year or more.

     

    *  Bar non-acitve duty beneficiaries under age 65
    from enrolling in TRICARE Prime.

     

    *  Raise pharmacy copayments as high as $40 or more
    per prescription.

     

    MILITARY PAY AND FORCE LEVELS

     

    *  Cap military pay raises below private-sector pay
    growth.

     

    *  Cut back in bonuses and or allowance
    levels.

     

    * Cut family support programs

     

    *  Impose large force reductions, particularly for
    the Army and Marine Corps

     

    MILITARY RETIREMENT

     

    * Curtail annual COLA’s

     

    *  Civilianize military retirement by moving to a
    401(K) style system and dramatically reduce retired pay upon leaving service
    with 20 to 30 years.

     

    All of this to help pay for the huge budget deficit
    caused by huge tax cuts, special interest spending, government financial
    management failures and the wars that were fought by the military now facing
    huge cuts without the benefit of any kind of war tax.

     

  • http://www.facebook.com/htrainer1 Harold Trainer

    In January, the White House and Pentagon announced
    the FY 2013 defense budget proposal would include nearly $500 billion in cuts
    over the next ten years, with a significant share of the cuts being absorbed in
    personnel, compensation, health care and other military benefits.

     

    Health Care

    *  Establish a $300 per person annual enrollment
    fee for TRICARE For Life (TFL)

     

    *  Impose an additonal $500 annual deductible for
    TFL and limit TFL coverage to 50 percent of the next $5000 iin medical
    costs.

     

    *  Raise TRICARE Standard fees by $1000 to $2000 a
    year or more.

     

    *  Bar non-acitve duty beneficiaries under age 65
    from enrolling in TRICARE Prime.

     

    *  Raise pharmacy copayments as high as $40 or more
    per prescription.

     

    MILITARY PAY AND FORCE LEVELS

     

    *  Cap military pay raises below private-sector pay
    growth.

     

    *  Cut back in bonuses and or allowance
    levels.

     

    * Cut family support programs

     

    *  Impose large force reductions, particularly for
    the Army and Marine Corps

     

    MILITARY RETIREMENT

     

    * Curtail annual COLA’s

     

    *  Civilianize military retirement by moving to a
    401(K) style system and dramatically reduce retired pay upon leaving service
    with 20 to 30 years.

     

    All of this to help pay for the huge budget deficit
    caused by huge tax cuts, special interest spending, government financial
    management failures and the wars that were fought by the military now facing
    huge cuts without the benefit of any kind of war tax.

     

  • Sue MacDonald

    Thanks for this kind of coverage and these personal stories. My son’s in Kuwait now, and those of us who wait for our vets – sons, brothers, husbands, wives, daughters, mothers – to come home often don’t know what to do or say or think. But hearing the vets’ stories is the only way to bring the war home to ALL of us, because even though we don’t pay attention to it every day, it’s OUR country, OUR tax dollars, OUR loved ones who are out there, every day. Thanks. Just thanks.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7W3MJJSTSHDZ7QRQBCIPS3VLUE Maria

    I was deeply moved by this news story.  Most Americans have no idea of the dedication and commitment of our military and the complexity of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Thank you to our veterans…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/7W3MJJSTSHDZ7QRQBCIPS3VLUE Maria

    I was deeply moved by this story.  Most Americans do not understand the commitment and dedication of our military and the complexity of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.  Thank you to our veterans…