Jason Margolis

Jason Margolis

Jason Margolis is a Boston-based reporter who regularly files stories throughout the U.S. about politics, economics, immigration issues, and environmental matters.

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Why Some Canadians Want To Pay Higher Taxes

Meet Dr. Michael Rachlis. He wants to give more of his money to the Canadian government.

“I think that we feel as higher income earners, that we want to live in a society, which is more equal, which is healthier, and we’re prepared to pay for it.”

Rachlis recently started the organization Doctors for Fair Taxation. He’s part of a growing tax revolt going on in Canada: People there want to pay higher taxes.

Dr. Michael Rachlis with "Doctors for Fair Taxation." (Photo courtesy: Michael Rachlis)

Dr. Michael Rachlis with "Doctors for Fair Taxation." (Photo courtesy: Michael Rachlis)

Rachlis doesn’t like the rising inequality he’s seeing in Canada. He blames it partly on tax rates that have been cut dramatically over the past three decades. Rachlis points to research that shows that more economically equal societies are healthier societies.

“So, I’m prepared to pay more taxes to live in a higher quality society, and of course I always have to quote Oliver Wendell Holmes, the esteemed US Supreme (Court) Justice, who said that he didn’t mind paying taxes because he thought he was purchasing civilization.”

Rachlis is calling for a modest tax increase on the top 10 percent of wage earners. He isn’t a lone voice crying into the Canadian wind. In Ottawa, progressives recently came together for a two-day “Fair Tax Summit.” Speakers uttered phrases like “paying taxes being a noble enterprise.” There was lots of griping how tax cuts have disproportionately befitted the top 1 percent of Canadians, and the impacts tax cuts have had on things like Canadian infrastructure and education.

Of course there are plenty of people in the US also calling for higher taxes, especially on the wealthy. Think: Warren Buffett.

But in Canada, this idea seems to be gaining broader support: a recent poll found that 64 percent of Canadians would be willing to pay “slightly higher taxes” to protect social programs. In the US, polls consistently show that about 2 to 5 percent of Americans think they pay less than their fair share.

So how do two cultures, living side by side, come to view taxes so differently?

“There is a sense that in Canada, we’re comfortable with government, it’s something that we need to have in our lives, and something that we are willing to pay for,” said Michael Smart, an economist at the University of Toronto.

He says the average American and Canadian now pay about the same in income tax. (Comparisons vary by where you live and your marginal tax bracket.) But Smart says the differing attitudes about paying those taxes, across the border, goes all the way back to the origin stories of the two nations.

“As many people know, the United States was founded pretty much on a principle of not wanting to pay taxes to their overlords. Canada’s story is very different. In fact, our origin myth is that we were founded by the people who didn’t want to stay in the United States, who were loyal to the British crown and came here. And I think that idea has stayed in our culture and in our politics.”

Now, before you start to think that all Canadians live to be taxed, let’s take a step back.

“I don’t think it’s at all clear that they (Canadians) do like paying taxes anymore than anyone else,” said Finn Poschmann, vice president of research at the C.D. Howe Institute, a conservative think tank in Toronto.

“It’s a fairly routine finding in surveys, that if you can ask people if the government should finance something that they believe is good, that they will say, yes, the government should finance it.”

For example, if you ask people if they support education or healthcare, of course they’ll say yes, argues Poschmann. But if you just ask: Are you yourself willing to pay higher taxes? Well, Poschmann says you’ll get different results.

Poschmann says there are plenty Canadians who want lower taxes. But he says that the Canadian system of government requires more compromise, so anti-tax crusaders in Canada are much more moderate and muted than in the US: “Nothing like the salience of the anti-tax movement in the US represented by the Tea Party movement.”

Many people I met in Canada, from all political stripes, were intrigued by the Tea Party.

“I mean, I think as Canadians, we view it with a little bit of horror and a kind of voyeuristic fascination in some ways, because it is pretty foreign to our experience,” said Shelia Block, an economist with the Wellesley Institute, a progressive think tank. She’s thinks that Canadians are under-taxed.

The challenge for progressives is how to get the word out.

This advertisement comes from the group “Make Poverty History.” It’s promoting what it calls “The Robin Hood Tax” in Canada. Their proposal: Tax the banks.

Several groups are now running pro-tax ads in Canada. Michael Rachlis is encouraged by what he’s seeing.

“It looks like in Ontario we’re going to have our first increase in personal income tax rates in 20 years and so the pendulum, it’s going to swing in the other direction in Canada,” said Rachlis. “I’m very happy. As we say, ‘Tax us, Canada is worth it.’”


Discussion

8 comments for “Why Some Canadians Want To Pay Higher Taxes”

  • Brad Boyle

    @joedelray:disqus : Not rooted in libertarian thought? You betcha! In Canada, libertarian principles take a back seat to the goal of a “Just Society” (google it). That is why the widespread mistrust of government and hatred of taxation south of the border seems, well, just a tad weird to many canucks.
    Like many Canadians, I am deeply thankful for this difference. In other words, I’m not just imagining it to be a good thing, I know it.

  • joedelray

    Indeed Canada is a lovely little country and will always be remembered when thought of at all by future historians that way. America however for better or worse has the burden if greatness upon her. The world looks to America not Canada for hope for a reason. I think most people (other then smug Canadians perhaps who despite their contempt and ill earned sense of moral superiority depend upon us) would say that America’s gifts to the world far outweigh whatever complaints may justly be raised.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HOPYXAG5L5FKCXIYUPJSAVSVWA Tony

      What an arrogant view of life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • joedelray

        While I hesitate to remonstrate with someone with such an impressive command of using exclamation points to make a point I should clarify. Though I find leftist Canadians who like to condescend to Americans as tiresome as anyone I think Canada is a swell place despite their large numbers. But while Canada produces more the its share of good comedians and bacon it is a rounding error to a footnote in the history of man’s pursuit of liberty. If Canadians wish to levy more taxes on themselves who would object? I say ‘*good luck with that*!’ But to imagine that this holds some lesson for America is to commit a category error like ‘apples’ v ‘oranges’ which was my original and (so far) undisputed point regarding our separate revolutionary experiences. But if this does not convince you perhaps this will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I used more then you!)

    • jack33w

      Americans are pretty stupid, on the whole. And yes, the Teat Party is a horrific group of fools.

      • joedelray

        Perfect illustration of my original point- many leftists (and Canadians…are there any other kinds?) don’t really ‘get’ the American idea from the Boston Tea party to today’s Tea Partiers. They *like* high rates of taxation and think this is more ‘fair’. Fine…again, who cares what they decide for themselves? But anyone can draw their own conclusions of which idea produces more wealth and human energy by simply comparing the two outcomes.

  • nandy63

    I am an American that is horrified by the Tea Party!  Scared to death of Sarah Palins and right wing Repubs……….My whole life (almost 50 years) I was brain washed on how awful Canada and France were, ALL OF YOU SOCIALIST!!  But I hope that Obama is re-elected so that we can have healthcare!!!  If Romney is elected I really hope that the Mayan calendar is right and we all end…….or I’ll move to Canada.  Thank you for your comments…….I enjoyed reading them except for the Stupid Americans comment  :)

  • nandy63

    I am an American that is horrified by the Tea Party!  Scared to death of Sarah Palins and right wing Repubs……….My whole life (almost 50 years) I was brain washed on how awful Canada and France were, ALL OF YOU SOCIALIST!!  But I hope that Obama is re-elected so that we can have healthcare!!!  If Romney is elected I really hope that the Mayan calendar is right and we all end…….or I’ll move to Canada.  Thank you for your comments…….I enjoyed reading them except for the Stupid Americans comment  :)