Gerry Hadden

Gerry Hadden

Gerry Hadden reports for The World from Europe. Based in Spain, Hadden's assignments have sent him to the northernmost village in Norway to the southern tip of Italy, and just about everywhere else in between.

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French President Hollande’s Plan to Tax Rich Touches Nerve

French President Francois Hollande (Photo: Stephane Mahe/Reuters)

French President Francois Hollande (Photo: Stephane Mahe/Reuters)

At a recent press conference in Paris, Swedish soccer star Zlatan Ibrahimovic announced that a French team had signed him for about $17 million a year.

Soccer salaries often cause controversy, but Ibrahimovic’s created an instant scandal.

The next morning President Hollande had his deputy budget minister Jerome Cahuzac go on French radio, to denounce the record pay-out as indecent.

The French government’s reaction won’t just be indignation. If Hollande has his way, Ibrahimovic will get socked with a 75 percent income tax on his new mega-salary. Same goes for anyone earning more than about $1.2 million a year in France.

Hollande is trying to lower France’s deficit in order to stave off contagion from other faltering eurozone countries such as Spain. The loudest complaints about the 75 percent tax bracket come, predictably, from those who stand to pay it.

At a small hotel in Paris, Sophie Canipel says she once liked the idea of inheriting this place from her parents. But with the top-tier tax, she says, she’ll be ruined.

“Right now, as upper middle class people, my husband and I are paying around 45 percent in income taxes each year,” Canipel says. “When I inherit the hotel from my parents we’ll get bumped up into that 75 percent tax bracket because the value of the place will be counted as income. There’ll be nothing left over for us.”

Without doubt Madame Canipel and others like her stand to pay through the nose. But they’re hardly getting a lot of sympathy from their working class neighbors.

In the city of Nancy, in eastern France, a shop owner named Anne says that she supports the tax hike. That way, she says, there’d be a fairer distribution of wealth between the ultra rich and the middle class.

But the vast majority of French non-millionaires aren’t rushing to celebrate. Because many people doubt that the rich will really end up paying the tax increase.

A barista named Sophie works at a corner café in the Paris suburb of Asnieres.

“I like the idea that the rich pay more, but I worry that they’ll find a way to pass the buck,” she says. “I’m sure that’s going to happen. The middle class is going to take it on the chin. It always happens that way. And the middle class is shrinking.”

Another fear is that more French wealth will leave the country. The wealthiest Frenchmen routinely stash their money in far-flung tax havens. Now, there’s concern that businesses might simply pack up and go.

Under Hollande’s tax reform, French corporations have lost a handful of deductions, including a big one on overtime salaries. Businesses already complain that labor costs are too high in France.

French carmaker Peugeot cited those costs this month as a reason for laying off 8,000 workers and closing a plant outside Paris. If Peugeot follows through, it would be the first car factory to close in France in 20 years.

British Prime Minister David Cameron recently joked that he would roll out the red carpet for French companies in the form of tax breaks.

Unions are up in arms. And Hollande himself has come out swinging he needs to show that he can, in fact, tax big money and not have the little guy pay the price.

France’s finance Minister, Pierre Moscovici, went on French radio to say that Peugeot’s plan was unacceptable. When asked what leverage the government has over private business, he hinted that government subsidies for the carmaker might come into question.

The outcome at Peugeot could weigh heavily on the credibility of President Hollande’s plan to tax the wealthiest more without strangling the economy.

France’s unemployment is at 10 percent and has been rising. He’d like to win this battle before moving on to the next: trimming France’s bloated public sector.

Discussion

35 comments for “French President Hollande’s Plan to Tax Rich Touches Nerve”

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_E5QVRPSMFSW2JAHR2HGBYR7MEU Kellogs

    This is the President whom Obama asked to keep his new tax plan under wraps until the US presidential election ended. 

  • Jason Elliott

    Romney – given his millions upon millions – would likely discourage such a hefty tax… then again, he might scoff at the tax and exploit loopholes to pay less than the Average American.

    • Don W

      Don’t be so jealous of someone who is successful.

      • Matthew Pettit

        Don’t be so chiding and ornery. People don’t get successful in a void, they rely on infrastructure paid for by taxation, educated employees and colleagues surrounding them, the buying power of those below them, and many other factors. Capitalism isn’t muscular lone men swinging hammers at rocks until million-dollar bills fall out – it is integrated, embedded and characterized by co-dependence. We have every right to criticize those who extract wealth from it (though we may be wrong in these criticisms); we’re all involved in each other’s position.

        • Old OddJobs

          People do not get successful in a void, that’s true. However, the people under attack in this new tax plan have themselves contributed far more in taxation than they have ever consumed. If you think of taxation as a price paid for the kind of environment you describe, then it’s quite obvious that a large&increasing number of people are net consumers of this environment and not contributors to it. 

          The basic point is that you cannot produce more wealth by attacking production. Production itself is the source of wealth. Trouble is, most people are too riddled with envy to stand for the success of others and they will do anything they can to get their hands on their money.

          It usually starts with adopting a hysterical moral high ground. THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!

  • regalrecaller

    French government has always been a bastion of democracy. Hat’s off to the new French govenment!

    • Howard Rash

      Did you not read the article? It says the guy s  socialist.

      • Jason Geanuracos

        Hopefully regalrecaller was kidding.

        • regalrecaller

          I was not.

      • Chris Kennedy

        Please point out exactly where in this article the word socialist is used.

        • Vesa Kaihlavirta

          His party is called “Socialist Party”. You see, in France, there’s no reason to hide that fact, since people in Europe actually understand what it means.

      • gfunk789

        Socialism is an economic system – it is possible for a government run by democracy to employ a socialist economic system.

      • gfunk789

        Socialism is an economic system – it is possible for a government run by democracy to operate under socialist economics

      • Kratos Shqiperia

        Yeah it’s called social democracy.

      • regalrecaller

        Who knew?? Capitalism is not synonymous with democracy. To those who fucked off during college, democracy is a political system while capitalism is an economic system. 
        It is perfectly possible to have a socialist democracy. If fact, many european nations have that exact thing. 

  • Jay Jefferson

    No, they’re gonna pack up and leave the “workers’ paradise?”

  • http://profiles.google.com/sggover Stan Gover

    What a joke.  It will be interesting to watch the implosion of France if this goes through

    • Matthew Pettit

      A simple, clear and absolutely uncontroversial lesson in American history: 

      Before Reagan took power in 81, the American tax rate for the richest citizens had hovered above 70% for three decades (
      http://taxfoundation.org/article/us-federal-individual-income-tax-rates-history-1913-2011-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets) – and during this time America had the unprecedented growth, becoming a world power. There was a significant decrease of income taxation under Reagan in response to a crisis of capital accumulation and “stagflation” in the 1970s, but this was not due to income taxation but due to international conditions including rising oil prices, reflected in high unemployment (something high income tax on the employed would offset in terms of social costs), low growth and inflation (
      http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2009/1109reuss.html).Bracketed income taxation was the American Way when there still was one. And it ended for reasons related to the world economy and Reagan’s opportunistic pandering to the wealthy, not because it was a bad idea in itself. If you took a moment to look at your own country’s history, you and others might stop voting it into a corner.

      • Paxxton

        Neither of your links are good, and your “lesson” meets none of its modifiers. Stagflation was not triggered by supply shocks in commodities markets. It was a product of overly-expansive monetary policy which contributed to unemployment and the two became a nasty pair. In other words, Mssr. Hollande has his priorities out of order if he intends to attempt public sector reform after massive wealth redistribution. Did you read the paragraph about Pugeot laying off 8,000 workers and closing a plant because the government is taking more of its money through increased taxation and using it elsewhere?

        http://useconomy.about.com/library/Stagflation.pdf

        • regalrecaller

          The neoliberal economic policies championed by greenspan and reagan is what led to the stagflation we experienced in the 80s. Most conservatives like to ignore neoliberalism because of what it means for their sense of righteousness. 

          • Old OddJobs

            yawn, change the record

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XBYTRBYNMISH5767N5X6ICLVDU Justin

    The reason why France fell behind during the economic downturns of the early 20th century were because of the inability of the French government to tax the ultra-rich who objected to tax hikes. Throughout the most of French history, the middle class and the poor have supported the government and country.

    History buff right here.

  • Joanna bo

     Holland was elected by dumb people and unemployed people and unsuccessful people.

    which is to say together they form the majority of electorate.
     This is how democracy works: the dumb majority
    gets the privilege of bashing smart minority and ruining the country in
    process.

    let’s imagine a referendum in ANY country asking the following question:

    should everybody making over 100K a year be forced to give up his excess income and hand it to over to people who make less than 100K?

    of course it is a stupid questions, but imagine the decision MAJORITY would make!
    majority is making less than 100K, so the thinking goes: let’s rob the rich.

    unfortunately, in order to vote the only prerequisite is that you are over 18, not that your IQ is over 18.
    pity pity

    • http://www.facebook.com/pantuthedog Tom Sheldon

      dislike

    • http://www.facebook.com/billyup Jesse Jones

      You sound like a despot.

    • regalrecaller

      Oh hey, lets have an economy with a minimum standard of living! Yay! No one falls through the cracks anymore!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/VKK2JRNGOX7M2KATFT5ZTTGEFU TomM

    many companies and private individuals have already left, and more will follow–
    everywhere this has been tried, it resulted in LESS tax revenue overall, and added to unemployment
    Tom-Makaha, hawaii

  • btodder

    The ultra rich will move out but the middle class will expand, bravo! Hope it passes

  • http://twitter.com/kreemer kreemer

    Aiiieeeee! Read the
    comments – anyone who thinks this is a good idea is NUTS! You mad???!!!!
    I’m telling
    you, it is unjustifiable. And it kicks in at 1.5million?!?

    What’s WRONG with people?

    For the first time I am sick to the stomach with ‘socialism’!

    That is outrageous, it is stupid, gettadamnjobaiyaiyai!

    Man…you know…they should all leave. Just get up and all leave. Or storm the Bastille. You gotta be kidding.

    I’m disgusted.

     

    • regalrecaller

      You must be an American. And either a millionaire who avoided all that “book larning” at college, or a tool of the teapublicans’ massive brainwashing campaign. 

      • Old OddJobs

        Wow, what a perversely narrow knowledge of the world this comment demonstrates. It must be comforting to think in facetious cartoon terms like that. You must be truly baffled by America. How can 50% of their population be so explicitly evil? They’re orcs!

        Wanting to keep YOUR OWN MONEY = greed. Wanting other people’s money = need.

        Right?

        • regalrecaller

          When did the American empire flourish more than any other time? From 1940 till about 1975-80. Top income earners were then taxed 70%, then Kennedy dropped it to +-50%, then Reagan dropped it to 33%. Do you know enough history to remember that the US had very low unemployment, a rapidly expanding middle class, a rapidly expanding GDP, a much lower disparity between rich and poor…I could go on.

          Tell me, is it more important for a nation to tax in order to survive, or for it to destroy itself? The more money you have, the more of a stake you have in the government, and the more money you should contribute for its proper functioning.

        • http://www.facebook.com/SPOsteen Summer Osteen

          What about wanting a currency to be sustained and a country with an economy to spend it in? Otherwise all that paper is worthless bucko.

    • http://www.facebook.com/SPOsteen Summer Osteen

      You’re disgusting. It’s people like you who are contributing to the problem.

  • http://www.facebook.com/SPOsteen Summer Osteen

    Americans are so ignorant about social systems and for those of you who are appalled at this taxation starting a the $1.2 million mark, you obviously need to be taken off of your high-horses. You could live off of a 5% interest rate of $1 million comfortably, if you lived within a reasonable means. Paying more taxes to sustain your country when you make such a ridiculously large amount of money just makes sense. The downfall to humanity is greed, pure and simple. Fair taxation is not the unemployed wanting hand outs, it is people like me who barely make $20,000/year and are taxed 20%  of their income. Sure they can put on paper that people in my specific tax bracket were only supposed to be taxed 15% but doing the simple math, I was actually taxed 20%, It would have been 25% had I not received any money back from the government. These billionaire people and corporations in America take advantage of loopholes to make their tax payments next to nothing. Of course that has a detrimental effect on our economic structure. President Hollande has the right idea.