Amy Bracken

Amy Bracken

Amy Bracken is a freelance reporter and radio producer based in Boston. Her subjects of interest include international migration, sustainable development, and music.

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The Growing Problem of Anti-Semitism in France

The front of Rabbi Michel Serfaty's bus with a sign saying "Jews and Muslims: No to Discrimination." (Amy Bracken)

The front of Rabbi Michel Serfaty’s bus with a sign saying “Jews and Muslims: No to Discrimination.” (Amy Bracken)

France is home to Western Europe’s biggest Jewish and Muslim populations. The two largely live side-by-side, but they are often divided. Tensions have been rising since last March, when a man named Mohamed Merah gunned down seven people – including three children at a Jewish school – in Toulouse. Merah himself was killed in a firefight with police. Then, in a shootout in Strasbourg last October, police killed Jeremy Sidney, a terror suspect linked to an attack on a kosher market outside Paris.

Merah and Sidney are extremes but among an alarming number of anti-Semitic attacks across France this year. Most of the assailants have been identified as young Muslim men. So it is in France’s low-income and largely Muslim communities that some religious leaders are campaigning for peace and reconciliation.

That’s why I’m on this rather unusual bus driving through working class suburbs of Paris. The 1970s vehicle is plastered with colorful posters with slogans of peace, and a banner above the windshield saying, “Jews and Muslims: No to Discrimination.”

I can see pedestrians gawking, and that’s the point. A rabbi and an imam are taking this bus on a tour of France. They’re visiting Muslim and Jewish communities to promote mutual understanding. Rabbi Michel Serfaty, the organizer, has been doing this for seven years, and, he says, it’s not getting any easier.

“Jews today live in fear,” he says. “When I tell people I’m going into to this kind of pressure cooker, everyone is afraid for me. Everything goes well, but the reality of the teaching of hatred is incontestable. We’ve been told of children as young as six-years-old who reek of hatred for Jews, reek of anti-Semitism. They learn it from their parents.”

Outside a marketplace, Serfaty and Imam Mohammed Azizi strike up a conversation with a woman in a headscarf. They show her a booklet on customs common to Jews and Muslims. The woman says she gets it, but she’s still upset by the images she sees on TV of what’s happening to the Palestinians. Serfaty urges people to focus on what’s happening in France instead of the Middle East, but the issue keeps coming up.

Sixteen-year-old Jihane Laoui, a Muslim student at a Catholic school, stops to check out the bus. She says she thinks the tour is a good idea because there are tensions among her peers. She says people post things on Facebook about Israel and Palestine and it gets everyone worked up.

Rabbi Michel Serfaty, the organizer of a Muslim-Jewish friendship bus tour in France. (Photo: Amy Bracken)

Rabbi Michel Serfaty, the organizer of a Muslim-Jewish friendship bus tour in France. (Photo: Amy Bracken)

Serfaty notes that kind of tension occasionally erupts into anti-Jewish violence.

“The rate of attacks goes up and down depending on what’s happening in the Middle East and on the economic crisis in France,” he says. “In neighborhoods where schools aren’t working and people feel isolated, anti-Semitism develops because Jews are assumed to be at the head of the media, at the head of banks, at the head of power, so people blame the Jews.”

This is a difficult time, according to Sammy Ghozlan, head of France’s National Bureau of Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism. He says anti-Jewish incidents have spiked since the Merah shootings in Toulouse.

“Today,” he says, “Jews avoid going out late, going to certain neighborhoods, wearing yarmulkes.” He says some who share Merah’s extreme views have taken inspiration from him.

In September, masked men threw grenades into a kosher grocery store in the heavily Jewish and Muslim suburb of Sarcelles (north of Paris). One person was injured. Police say a Muslim convert killed in an October raid was implicated in the grenade attack.

On this afternoon, there are plenty of shoppers at the grocery store, and the owner of the kosher market next door says the grenade attack was an isolated incident. “We never have any problems,” he says. “Sometimes there’s some anti-Semitic graffiti about what’s happening with Palestine, but city hall cleans it off pretty quickly.”

Still, some Muslim leaders here are taking steps to counteract the most negative perceptions. Hassen Chalghoumi led a delegation of 17 imams to Israel last month. They met President Shimon Peres and visited the graves of the three children killed by Merah.

“We wanted to show a positive side of France – of diversity, of coexistence, because they don’t know us,” he says. “There are Israelis who think all French Muslims are Merah. I met youths who said to me, ‘You’re all like Merah.’”

Many Muslims in France fear that their fellow Frenchmen think the same thing. One Moroccan shop owner told me the police treat young Muslim men as future Merahs. But while Merah was clearly an extreme case, some see him as a product of his environment. One of his brothers says they were raised to hate Jews.

It’s both a new and an old story, says fashion designer Maud Perl, who runs a boutique in the chic Paris neighborhood of Le Marais. Perl is the great granddaughter of Alfred Dreyfus. That’s Captain Dreyfus, who was jailed on trumped up charges of treason and became a symbol of French anti-Semitism at the turn of the last century.

Perl says when she was a girl, her grandmother told her about Dreyfus. But she really felt a connection to him when Catholic classmates shunned her after they found out she was Jewish. “I was very marked by that experience,” she says.

“I suddenly found myself at the heart of a story that was repeating itself.” And while she says overt anti-Semitism seemed to go away for decades, it resurfaced in 2000, with the Palestinian intifada. “I think we’ve let the situation deteriorate for so long that it will be very difficult to fix it,” she says, “but we absolutely must.”

And that’s why Rabbi Michel Serfaty rides around on an old bus, trying to close the gap between neighbors of different faiths.

Discussion

133 comments for “The Growing Problem of Anti-Semitism in France”

  • Darthkuriboh

    I know a great way to eliminate anti-semitism and islamophobia… send jews and muslims worldwide back to their own countries and make them stay there.

    • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

      Darthkuriboh,

      And how about those Jews and Muslims that were born in places like France, and regard themselves as French and support French values?   Are they not French?  How would you send them back to their own country, if they’re already in their own country?  Besides, forcibly segregating people based on things like their race or their religion, hardly promotes peace and harmony.

      • RayPrice

        Yet you support the ethnic cleansing of Palestine by Zionist terrorists.  Your lies are transparent.

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

          Where did I state that I think Israel should kill off the Palestinians?  No where have I advocated genocide.  I even support groups like Loon Watch that have spoken out on behalf of Palestinians.

          • RayPrice

            Removing them from the land and from means of perpetuating themselves is genocide.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Where have I stated that I support removing Palestinians from the Land? Besides Genocide isn’t simply removing people from the land on which they were born.

            According to The Oxford English Dictionary, Genocide is,

            “the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group: a campaign of genocide”

            http://oxforddictionaries.com/

            According to Dictionary.com, Genocide is defined as

            “The planned extermination of a national or racial group”
            http://m.dictionary.com/?q=Gen

            Also according to Your Dictionary,

            “Genocide is the killing or attempted killing of an entire people belonging to the same race, religion or nation.”

            http://www.yourdictionary.com/

            According to the MacMillian Dictionary, which gives the least precise definition of all, Genocide is defined as,

            “the murder of large numbers of people belonging to a particular race”

            http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/genocide

            Unless you can prove that the Palestinian population is decreasing, and its being deliberately caused by the Israeli government, its not much of a genocide, is it? If you can’t prove that the Israeli government is trying to kill the Palestinians off, how is that genocide at all?

            Also, where is your proof of white genocide now? There is no conspiracy to destroy the “white race.” If non whites are coming in, in droves and are simply having more babies than whites, as true Pooka pointed out, in that video, I’m guessing you didn’t watch, that’s not genocide.

          • filthykafur

            Theres no such place as Palastine…never happened. It is a Muslim ruse to keep the wounds open against Israel..Google it.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Yes and I suppose that all historical documents dated prior to the creation of the modern state of Israel, that mention Palestine and/or Palestinians, like this one are all just forgeries.

            MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
            http://unispal.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/0/2FCA2C68106F11AB05256BCF007BF3CB

            Is that what you expect me to believe or were you unaware that documents like that one even existed?

            Do yourself a favor and stay away from bigoted anti Muslim “Counter Jihad” Blogs, and stop listening to authors like Robert Spencer.

            Instead, read a real history book on the Palestine Israeli conflict by an actual historian like this one.

            Palestine and the Arab-Israeli Conflict: A History with Documents by Charles D. Smith
            http://www.amazon.com/Palestine-Arab-Israeli-Conflict-History-Documents/dp/1457613484/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1357078949&sr=8-3&keywords=palestine+and+the+arab-+israeli+conflict

          • filthykafur

            How dare you send me such abuse? Do YOURSELF a favour by living amongst the Muslim communities and get a first hand ear for whats going on, they are well aware that Palastines a fraud..

            You may also like to speak to several people exactly like Robert Spencer and Whalid Shoebat, for these people have lived the horrors of Islam, you ignorant  left wing git,

            Go to France and see the disaster there with Muslims … Palastine is in the imagination of those who would terrorise and DESTROY Israel.

            Islam is sworn to “drive Israel into the sea”..Islam is a world danger as it fights in 49 countries for dominance.

            I wont reply again, im not playing your socialist games with you, so dont waste your valuable time writing again.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            I just showed you a document dated prior to the creation of Israel, that mentions Palestine.  Thus proving beyond a reasonable doubt that Palestine wasn’t invented to “keep the wounds open against Israel” as you put it.  You didn’t even attempt to convince me that it was a forgery or explain how it would be possible for such historical documents to exists, if Palestine really was something that was made up to hurt Israel.

            Instead you come back here and simply whine about how I’m insulting you, and complain about how evil Islam is, and how the Muslims are supposedly destroying Israel and the west.  Apparently you won’t respond any more becouse you know you can’t refute that historical document, that proves how ignorant you were by showing beyond a reasonable doubt that “Palestine” wasn’t invented simply to hurt Israel as you claimed, so you try to change the subject.

          • filthykafur
          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            No you are an ignoramus.  There was and is a Palestine and “Palestinian” wasn’t a term that was simply used by the British prior to the creation of Israel for Jews living in the region of that world prior to the formation of Israel.

            Here are some excerpts from

            The White Paper, by Sir Winston Churchill dated, June  1922

            —————————————–

            Unauthorized statements have been made to the effect that the purpose
            in view is to create a wholly Jewish Palestine. Phrases have been used
            such as that Palestine is to become “as Jewish as England is English.” His
            Majesty’s Government regard any such expectation as impracticable and have
            no such aim in view. Nor have they at any time contemplated, as appears to
            be feared by the Arab delegation, the disappearance or the subordination
            of the Arabic population, language, or culture in Palestine. They would
            draw attention to the fact that the terms of the Declaration referred to
            do not contemplate that Palestine as a whole should be converted into a
            Jewish National Home, but that such a Home should be founded `in
            Palestine.’ In this connection it has been observed with satisfaction that
            at a meeting of the Zionist Congress, the supreme governing body of the
            Zionist Organization, held at Carlsbad in September, 1921, a resolution
            was passed expressing as the official statement of Zionist aims “the
            determination of the Jewish people to live with the Arab people on terms
            of unity and mutual respect, and together with them to make the common
            home into a flourishing community, the upbuilding of which may assure to
            each of its peoples an undisturbed national development.”

            —————————————–

             Later Churchill writes.

            ——————————- ———-

            It is also necessary to point out that the Zionist Commission in Palestine, now termed the Palestine Zionist Executive, has not desired to possess, and does not possess, any share in the general administration of the country. Nor does the special position assigned to the Zionist Organization in Article IV of the Draft Mandate for Palestine imply any such functions. That special position relates to the measures to be taken in Palestine affecting the Jewish population, and contemplates that the organization may assist in the general development of the country, but does not entitle it to share in any degree in its government.

            Further, it is contemplated that the status of all citizens of
            Palestine in the eyes of the law shall be Palestinian, and it has never
            been intended that they, or any section of them, should possess any other
            juridical status. So far as the Jewish population of Palestine are
            concerned it appears that some among them are apprehensive that His
            Majesty’s Government may depart from the policy embodied in the
            Declaration of 1917. It is necessary, therefore, once more to affirm that
            these fears are unfounded, and that that Declaration, re affirmed by the
            Conference of the Principle Allied Powers at San Remo and again in the
            Treaty of Sevres, is not susceptible of change.

            ——————————

            Follow this link, scroll down until you get to the White Paper and read it carefully.

            http://www.ipcri.org/files/kingcrane.html

            It doesn’t sound like the term “Palestinian” prior to the creation of Israel, was simply a term for Jews living in the region prior to the creation of Israel, contrary to that propaganda website, you just cited.  In fact, it included everyone living there.

          • filthykafur

            You really ARE scraping the barrel when you dig up documents that were drawn up but never put into place after 1948. All this drivel is about documents that did not in fact come into play. As I said, you are really one confused little queen, or perhaps little boy? You never did answer this question my darling.

            You know, all that you are going to achieve by defending Islamic claims as you are, is to get your throat cut last when they take over our countries! LOL. and if you want to know what Churchill (peace and blessings be upon him) thought of your so called “Paestinians” here it is:WINSTON CHURCHILL ON ISLAM – IN 1899!

            “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
            Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia
            in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many
            countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods
            of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet
            rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the
            next of its dignity and sanctity.

            The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as
            his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must
            delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased
            to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid
            qualities – but the influence of the religion paralyses the social
            development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists
            in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and
            proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa,
            raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity
            is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it
            had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell
            the civilization of ancient Rome.”

            -Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages
            248-50 (London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899).
            1 November 2005 – Australia

          • filthykafur

            Listen you idiot.. “PALASTINE” was only a name that Britain called the area until it was recognised as ISRAEL! There NEVER WAS A PALESTINE, it was only a name used by the Britsih, it is and was Israel.

            Im getting bored with you now… so get outa my life, I have much better things to do than try to educate a hand wringing Dhimmi. Dont forget to pay your Jizya tax next month. byee sweeheart x

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Filthykafur,

            You are truly pathetic.  If the claims made by that “Mytorah” were true, its unlikely that Winston Churchill would have used the terms Palesitne, and even  Palestinian in the way that he did.  He wasn’t just talking about Jews living in the region contrary to your claims.

            Now since you know you can’t convince  people that document is a  forgery, You instead come back here and try to scare me, by talking about how evil  Islam supposedly is and how Muslims are going to murder me for being a useful idiot, instead of debunking what I wrote, and that quote by Churchill that you cited doesn’t change a thing. His views on Islam are irrelevant to my point.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Filthykafur,

            The people living In the area, the British called “Palestine” before large numbers of Jews moved there in the twentieth century were Palestinians, mostly Arab Muslims.   What you think there was no one there before Jewish people from Europe and other parts of the world moved there?  You think that it was just empty land between the time of the Biblical Israel, and the time modern Israel was established? Or are you operating under the delusion that area was always dominated by Jews?

            It also wasn’t just the British that refered to the land as Palestine, it was pretty much everyone else at the time.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Oh by the way, in that same document, Churchill also states,

            —————————————

             The Secretary of State would point out that already the present
            administration has transferred to a Supreme Council elected by the Moslem
            community of Palestine the entire control of Moslem Religious endowments
            (Waqfs), and of the Moslem religious Courts. To this Council the
            Administration has also voluntarily restored considerable revenues derived
            from ancient endowments which have been sequestrated by the Turkish
            Government. The Education Department is also advised by a committee
            representative of all sections of the population, and the Department of
            Commerce and Industry has the benefit of the co operation of the Chambers
            of Commerce which have been established in the principal centres. It is
            the intention of the Administration to associate in an increased degree
            similar representative committees with the various Departments of the
            Government.

            —————————————-

            Agian, he’s talking about Palestinian Muslims, he’s not just talking about Jews, living in the region.

            Oh, and earlier in my last comment, I even quoted him talking about how impractical he thought it would be to create a state in the region as Jewish and England was English. Not looking good for you or your claims, is it?

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Also, even through, its not a historical document, you might also want to read this

            Ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, or, democratic Israel at work
            http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-or-democratic-israel-at-work-1.361196

          • filthykafur
          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Yes there was, and is.  Read my earlier replies to you.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Oh and just a few more things.  Why did you assume without any evidence that I was a socialist?  Is it because you assume that every non Muslim who disagrees with you, is a socialist?

            Also both Spencer and Shoebat are frauds.

            Robert Spencer’s “Scholarly” Credentials
            http://spencerwatch.com/real-scholars-experts-on-islam/

            And Shoebat is an even bigger joke than he is.

            Walid Shoebat Exposed Part 1
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04yWUuoU7Lc&list=PL8075B60F0F01769C&index=38

            Walid Shoebat Exposed Part 2
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItxpU7ll2SE&list=PL8075B60F0F01769C&index=43

            Why should I, or anyone else listen to either of them?

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

             Wow….Shoebat’s gained some weight. He looks pretty rough too. Perhaps it’s all the lies he’s told haunting him?

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Maybe he eats a lot, and has health issues.   Unfortunately I don’t think he feels any guilt over what he’s done.

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

           Oh and one more thing, despite any human right abuse Isreal may be guilty of, including when it comes to the Palestinian / Israeli conflict, they’re hardly committing genocide.

          • RayPrice

            Of course they are.  Meets the definiton under international law.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            No actually they’re committing ethnic cleansing. It’s not genocide, but it can include it. I still loathe what they’re doing to my people, but let’s get it right here. And it’s not Jews as a whole, it’s Zionists. One of my closest associates who’s fought aggressively against Zionism and Israel happens to be Jewish himself. 

      • Darthkuriboh

        They’re not French and they don’t support French values. If they did, they’d leave of their own accord.

        Actually, segregation is the only thing that promotes peace and harmony. An example is in the US. The crime rate is astronomical, whereas in the 50′s, it wasn’t even half of what it is now. The majority of the crimes aren’t committed by whites, either..

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

          Yeah, that explains why both segregation in the American South, and apartheid in South Africa could only be maintained by force.  Not to mention how blacks with the help of blacks like the reverent Martian Luther King were able to put an end to segregation through non violent  passive resistance.   Give me a break.

          And by the way, if they supported French values, why would they leave, especially if they place they would be going to, most people would not support French values?

          • Darthkuriboh

             Segregation is the only way to achieve a peaceful society. It is all that works, period. Nothing you say will change that. If you look at the US now, whites are targeted by blacks specifically for r–a–p–e, murder, armed robbery, etc. The South African Boers are under threat of Genocide, they are being murdered at such sickening levels. Try again to tell me segregation doesn’t work, because it’s all that DOES.

            I don’t care what values they support. THEY DO NOT BELONG IN EUROPE. PERIOD.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Spoken like a true racist.  You care more about their skin tone than they’re individual character, and you refuse to look at how historically segregation has never achieved  a peaceful society.  Even if there are some cases when black criminals specifically target whites, what those blacks do, says nothing about other blacks.  Same with people belonging to any particular “race.”  People are not responsible for the actions of others, just because they are the same “race.”

            Also, are you prepared to back up the claim that the Boers are under threat of being brutally wiped out, other than just insisting they are and repeating “white genocide” mantras?  By the way, I won’t accept hate sites as sources.  So if you can’t find say a New York Times or Los Angeles Times article, about Boers being mass murdered, please don’t even bother.

          • Darthkuriboh

             Actually, I’m a racial realist. I know it’s easy to confuse the two, however, since anything that’s against the left’s line of minorities over anyone else is considered racism.

            As to your request, you won’t find a Jew York Times article about it, and you shouldn’t read the Jew York Times to begin with. It’s Jew propaganda and nothing else. Genocide Watch is no hate group:

            w–w–w.genocidewatch.o–r–g/southafrica.html

            w–w–w.nl-aid.o–r–g/domain/human-rights/south-africa-at-stage-six-genocide/

            w–w–w.therightperspective.o–r–g/2011/02/13/un-asked-to-stop-boer-genocide/

            Sorry about all of the dashes. I’m attempting to avoid whatever censor Communist News Network is using this week.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             No a “racial realist” is just another word for racist, which is obviously what you are.  You’re also clearly an antisemitic bigot as well, since you refer to the New York Times, as the “Jew York times,” and claim its all just “Jew propaganda.”

            Also, you’re not going to be censored.  They allowed links to an actual hate site here earlier.  So next time don’t put dashes like that.  Its pointless.  It only makes it harder and I was only able to get one of your links to work, even after removing them.

            Now as for what’s happening in South Africa right now, it doesn’t prove that people of different racial or ethnic backgrounds can’t live in peace as equals in the same society, under the same rule of law.  As bad as it maybe for the Boars, its not an arguement for segregation or bringing back apartheid.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

             Damn….this thread is populated by both kinds of anti-Semites, ones that hate Jewish Semites and ones that hate Arab Semites, and lots of leftist bashers.

            As a Semitic leftist I see my work is really cut out for me. These people are nuts!

          • Darthkuriboh

             Nobody will listen to you. We’re all sick of Jews, left and not. None of you are worth a crap, so go away. Go live in Israel where you belong and get out of white lands.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            LOL he thinks I’m Jewish. Cool, whatever. It’s a lot better than being white.

          • Darthkuriboh

             whether you’re a jew or an arab (and I’m fully well aware that both are semitic in ancestry) you are, by your own words, anti-white scum. Therefore, you need to stop being a parasite and leave white lands immediately.

          • Darthkuriboh

             I find you to be the racist. You don’t care, and perhaps cheer, when whites are being systematically slaughtered by blacks, arabs, and hispanics. Racists believe in extermination of races. You’re the racist. You believe in the extermination of the greatest race this planet will ever see.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            No I don’t believe in exterminating other “races” nowhere did I even imply that. I’m also not a racist, precisely because I don’t care about “race”

          • Darthkuriboh

            Then you’re naive. Everything in the end comes down to race.

            It’s really very simple. There are organizations dedicated to Jewish interests, Arabic interests, Black interests, Hispanic interests… yet any pro white interest  group is immediately branded a hate group and shut down. Explain that one.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Darthkuriboh,

            No, in the end, everything does not come down to “race” which is an arbitrary social construct anyway.  The only time when everything comes down to “racist” is when we are talking about racists like yourself, or as you insist on calling yourself, a “racial realist”

          • Darthkuriboh

             Race is not a social construct. Get that leftist CRAP out of your head. Race is a VERY genetic thing. It shows not just through skin color, but eye shape, eye color, hair color, general body shape. It shows in determination as to whether or not a group of people can build or destroy, create or negate. Race is many, many genetic factors, but it is NOT a social construct.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Darthkuriboh,No, contrary to bigots like you, race is a social construct, scientists, stopped using “race” a long time ago.  Geneticists and Anthropologists no longer consider it a scientific concept.  The only “scientists” who use “race” pretty much are racist pseudoscientists.   

          • filthykafur

            here here ! amen

          • filthykafur

            CriticalDragon… can we have a truce between us without you smart mouthing me (as you do so many others) ?

            Tell me what is your opinion of Islam please?

        • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

          What are French values? Cheese, wine, and surrender?

          • Darthkuriboh

             White culture. Art, history, religion, music, science, etc. The exact anthesis of non-white culture.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Yeah anything that non whites have done, believe or created is the antithesis of everything whites have done, believe or created.  Give me a break.

          • Darthkuriboh

             other than creating crime and fatherless families, what have non-whites created? I know the Japanese are incredibly intelligent, and they do well in Japan. I see no issues with having trade with other nations, but white nations need to remain white.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Okay, non whites haven’t created anything other than crime and fatherless families, you say?

            Look at just some of the books I’ve found when I narrowed the search down to African Inventors alone, and this just after I typed in the phrase, “African American Inventors” into Amazon. 

            African American Inventors (Black Stars)
            http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Inventors-Black-Stars/dp/0471148040/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357357983&sr=8-1&keywords=Africian+American+Inventors

            100 African-Americans Who Shaped American History (100 Series)
            http://www.amazon.com/African-Americans-Shaped-American-History-Series/dp/0912517182/ref=pd_sim_b_1

            Black Stars: African American
            Women Scientists and Inventors
            http://www.amazon.com/Black-Stars-American-Scientists-Inventors/dp/047138707X/ref=pd_sim_b_2

            Black Pioneers of Science and Invention
            http://www.amazon.com/Black-Pioneers-Science-Invention-Louis/dp/0152085661/ref=pd_sim_b_3

            1001 Things Everyone Should Know About African American History
            http://www.amazon.com/Things-Everyone-African-American-History/dp/038548576X/ref=pd_sim_b_4

            Book of Black Heroes: Scientists, Healers, and Inventors
            http://www.amazon.com/Book-Black-Heroes-Scientists-Inventors/dp/0940975971/ref=pd_sim_b_5

            African American Entrepreneurs (Black Stars)
            http://www.amazon.com/African-American-Entrepreneurs-Black-Stars/dp/0471145769/ref=pd_sim_b_6

            You’re statement is as baseless as it is bigoted and racist and you’ve still given me no reason to care if white nations remain white or not.  You’ve also given me no sound reason to support racial segregation at all.

          • Darthkuriboh

             Do some research. This took less than a minute to find,

            http://tightrope.cc/Black-Invention-Myths.htm

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            That’s a white supremacist hate site, not a reliable source of information. You only take what that site says seriously because what it says corresponds to your preconceived notions.

          • Darthkuriboh

             You’re going to consider anything that proves you wrong to be a “white supremacist hate site.” Any bit of information that proves every single thing you’ve ever said your entire life is wrong, and it’s all whitey’s fault, right? I’m done with this conversation. You’re worthless. I hope to God you don’t breed.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Darthkuriboh,

            No you’re going to consider anything that proves you wrong to be part of the ridiculous anti white conspiracy, that you believe in.  Reality proves you wrong.  The only way you’re bigoted world view even begins to make sense, is if we are willing to ignore a bunch of glaring contradictions. We have to assume that non whites, despite being inherently less intelligent than whites have some how managed to trick the much smarter white “race” into thinking that they are just as smart as them and have invented many of the things that whites really did, despite the fact that if you were correct, they wouldn’t be smart enough to do so.

          • Darthkuriboh

             Any idiot can write a book. Fact of the matter is, is that the media, which includes the book industry, is extremely anti-white and is heavy on practicing anti-white racism. Do some research of your own, and you might see. That’s what I did, and I found all sorts of things I never knew.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Many of the books the ones I linked to are books written by academics if not professional Historians and many books like those are used in schools and collages across America.

    • http://profiles.google.com/viskarenvisla Alexander Montie

       What country would you send the Jews to? Israel? More importantly what are they doing wrong that is even remotely similar to what the Muslims do? Are they low-income, create dangerous neighborhoods, disobey the law, refuse to assimilate, and hyper-violent about their religion? Or do they typically get high-income jobs, pursue higher education, and create tax money for France? The Jewish community and Muslim community in France are not the same, not by a longshot.

      • martial

        He would prefer gas chambers for the Jews.

        • Darthkuriboh

           Nahh. Leftists go there.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            That’s some sick shit there buddy. You’re disgusting.

      • Darthkuriboh

         I would send the Jews to Israel. I’d also seize their holdings in every white nation, and refuse to allow them to own ANYTHING in any white nation again. What are they doing wrong? Not sure I have long enough to actually mention everything they do wrong. Let’s see… how about blackmailing politicians through their control of the financial sector? How about brainwashing the masses through their control of hollywood and the mainstream media? You do realize every media outlet is owned by Jews, right? As is EVERY movie and television production company. As are all of the major banks and investment firms. Everything.

        • John Norman

          Typical of most empty-headed prats or schmucks, if you like.Useless to the country, useless to yourself, a hated-filled windbag who should be flushed down the toilet. The sooner the better.

          • Darthkuriboh

             come try it

      • acid_claus

        What are they doing wrong? Look, if you want to follow a double standard and demonize entire groups of people for the action of a few within the group, then you can’t complain when people blame the Jews. Jews control all of the international fractional reserve central banks. All of them. Not the Jews as in all of them, but the people who control it are Jews. Therefore they control the planet’s finances. They are the money supply. The people who control all the precious metals and mineral and their mining operations are also exclusively Jewish. Then you have public opinion. The people who tell you how to think in the Western media and especially in Hollywood are mostly Jewish. Hollywood was created by Jews. People call this “antisemitic” to point out. But it’s a fact. Is the truth “antisemitic”? It would appear so. We live in an era where truth is “hate speech”. Is that because people hate to hear the truth?

        And then there is the “so what” submissive argument, the people who acknowledge the above facts and say “better Jews than Muslims” or whatever. As if Muslim was an ethnicity like the Jews are. The majority of Jews are not at all religious. This is not an apples to oranges comparison. And the Jews of Palestine are exterminating Palestinians at American taxpayer expense. Jewish foreign policy think tanks are responsible for all wars and the lies used to get there. Jewish false flag terrorism since the 50s is the number one cause of all terrorist attacks in the world, not Muslims. Even baiting or inciting or brainwashing others to do your dirty work does not remove you from ultimate responsibility like those Mossadies think.

        Then of course you have Jewish psychopathy and trying to make it into a good thing by making movies glorifying organized crime and also white wash it as Asperger’s syndrome and say that it is autism. These are not at all a people you want in control of everything. Not at all. Stop holding this group to a double standard and start holding them accountable for their crimes against this Earth.

    • RayPrice

       Indeed, but that would mean the “Jews” (Khazar/fake Jews, that is) would have to move out of Israel – a place their ancestors NEVER lived in before.

      • Darthkuriboh

        While I agree Khazars do not belong in the land now known as Israel, having them there is the best way to keep an eye on them. They just need to be forced to stay there, and keep their dirty little hands out of other countries’ politics, business, and finance.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTZPSD3UXV6GEV5YWADOS56IYQ Kar

    Until Jews end the occupation of Gaza, East Jerusalem and the West Bank, and stop terrorizing and killing Palestinians, there will be no peace between them.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Aaron-Karjala-Johannessen/10045889 Aaron Karjala Johannessen

      You mean Israelis.  That has nothing to do with French Jews.

      • martial

        He meant Jews. 

      • RayPrice

         Israelis and Sayanim – if you want to exclude the minority of Jews who are not involved, fine.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTZPSD3UXV6GEV5YWADOS56IYQ Kar

         Israel is a Jewish state – so talking of a Jewish occupation is accurate.

    • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

      Kar,

      Not all Jews support the occupation any more than all Muslims support terrorist tactics of Hamas or Fatah.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTZPSD3UXV6GEV5YWADOS56IYQ Kar

        Of course not all Jews support or condone the abusive actions of their government just as not all Muslims support the killing of non-Muslims. By Jewish occupation I mean the Israel government – the Jewish state. Many of the abuses in the occupied territories have been reported by Jewish Human organizations.

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

          Their government?  Not all Jews live in Israel, or are citizens of Israel, thus the Israeli government is not their government. Do you realize how bigoted you sound?

          Also if don’t want to sound antisemitic, call it the “Israeli occupation” instead.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_NTZPSD3UXV6GEV5YWADOS56IYQ Kar

            Israel is a Jewish state as stated by government leaders. You, like many who close their eyes to Jewish criminality in Palestine, seem to want to label those who expose it as bigots. The bigots are those who subjugate Palestinians in their own land. And Hamas and Fatah are freedom fighting organizations, fighting Jewish occupation. You also seem to conflating Judaism with Jewry. They’re distinct.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Yes, Israel is officially a Jewish state, but not all Jews are Israelis.  There are many countries in the Middle East, most well known, Saudi Arabia, that are officially Muslim.  Would it not sound rather Islamophobic to tell a Muslim living in say America, that was a citizen of the US, ( Not Saudi Arabia ) that you didn’t approve of what his government was doing, when you were condemning the obvious human right abuses that the Saudi government commits on a daily basis?

            Also, how does it sound when someone keeps harping on the fact that countries like Saudi Arabia are Muslim countries, when they condemn what people are doing over there?

          • filthykafur

            Islamophobic ??? LOL Another imaginary word!
            My my Critical Dragon you really are full of BS arnt you? haha

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Yes, I suppose that all bigotry against Muslims doesn’t exist.  Of course someone like you would say that.  Get a life

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jimmy-TheFish/100000139595167 Jimmy TheFish

    So glad we allowed immigration from the third world, now they will bring there wars to our land. 

    • RayPrice

       Well, it started with the Jewish 3rd worlders who hijacked Western policies to create and support Israel.  They are the ones who brought war to us – 9/11 never would have happened without our government’s support of Israel.

      • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

        Oh yes, a 9/11 truther and an antisemitic bigot.

        • filthykafur

          Ive noticed that you use the word “Bigot” to anyone who disagrees with your confused opinions. Why is that Critical Dragon?

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             No its not anyone, its only people like you, and RayPrice who are bigots,

          • filthykafur

            As you can see I have sent you my proof of the non existence of Palastine.. now pray tell me why you are calling me a bigot?

            Am I a bigot because I dont accept Palastine is real, or I have my own opinions on Islam, or because I dont agree with you? Which one?

            Is it because I disagree with you (as most Dhimmis are prone to do) or is it because you are ignorant of the abuse of manking Islam is wreaking all over the world and you dont understand this yet?

            If it is the latter I will gladly teach you, and even let you have my spare copy of the Qr’n.

            I must say, I am trying to work out whether you are a child yet or not too. If im writing to a 16 year old boy I would rather you tell me, and then ill try to use smaller words. LOL xx

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             Because you’re being a bigot, and I just refuted your “non existence of Palestine” garbage.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Palestine is real. Palestinians are real. I’m a Palestinian, and I’m as real as it gets.

          • filthykafur

            Dont be silly… you THINK you are a Palestinian because you have been brought up to believe this. Just as you have been brought up to hate the Jews and desire their removal from the earth.

            Now stop being silly……. im getting tired of these games now…YAWWWWNNN LOL

            Even YASA ARAFAT ( of the PLO)admitted there was no such place as Palestine and it was just to cause trouble with the Jews.

          • filthykafur

            http://www.wnd.com/2002/07/14501/

            Please visit this site and read whast the PLO said about the “Palestinian” people…and its NON existence.. theres only a few paragraphs, read it all.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Do you actually expect us to believe what WND says when  they keep churning out the most ridiculous pseudoscience and political propaganda imaginable?

            WorldNetDaily Promotes Walt Brown’s Book
            http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/worldnetdaily-promotes-walt-browns-book/

            WorldNet Daily Continues to Pump Out Outrageous Propaganda
            http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/fall/world-nuts-daily

            Especially since given the fact, that in case you hadn’t noticed, Joseph Farah doesn’t supply a single link to a reliable source to back up his claims, including that French News paper that he mentions. Given the unreable nature of Farah’s “journalism,” as well as his WND as a whole, I wouldn’t be surprised if the actually story contradicted what he was saying. The closest he comes is to link to a previous WND propaganda piece also written by him.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Now take my advice, and do yourself a favor, stay away from those far rightwing propaganda sites and read an actually history text book, written by a real historian on the subject, of the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Oh and while you’re at it, stay away from the “counter Jihad” websites and the people who support it.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Also, Jabhawiya, does not hate Jews. You just made another unjustified assumption based on your own prejudices.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Who was living in the land we  now call Israel, prior to large numbers of Jews specifically Zionist Jews moving  there?  I’ll give you a clue, I already told you.  They were a people called Palestinians.  Despite what the ridiculous “mytorah” website had to say, Palestinian was and is a word for the Arab people who lived there before the large influx of outsiders moved into the area and their decedents are the same Palestinians living in the Palestinian territories now.  It wasn’t like the land was empty between the end of the Biblical Israel, and the establishment of Modern state of Israel, and that land had ceased being Jewish within that time period.  So who was living there when all the Jewish settlers arrived in the first half of the 20th century?  Oh yes, they were Palestinians.

            Palestinian nationalism – New Land Laws, New Land Purchases, New Shared Identity
            http://whathappenedbeforethat.net/palestinian-nationalism/identity

            Development of Palestinian Nationalism Post-WWI http://whathappenedbeforethat.net/palestinian-nationalism/post-ww1

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Thought I’d get an original response but instead I get the same old recycled bullshit. I’m not wasting my time with you.

          • filthykafur

            My dear Muslim friend, I dont recall ever inviting or asking you to “Waste your time” with me!!
            You joined my conversation with another idiot, and I responded with plentiful proof on a website to deny your claim to be a “Palestinian”. It must be very painful to be educated by the Kuffr I know, and im  sorry, but the truth is the truth.

            Now you run off my little crybaby. Bys bye my darling, no hard feelings x x (2 kisses 4 u)

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            I’m not Muslim you dumbass. I’m atheist. Once again, a racist shows his true colors by automatically assuming, PUBLICLY, and inaccurately, that I am a Muslim just because I’m Palestinian and have an Arabic name.

            Bugger off, racist.

          • filthykafur

            Firstly, as I explained to you, you are NOT a “Palestinian” you are an Arab. I am not a dumbass, nor a racist. I am also an Atheist (ex Christian).

            Assuming a person is “Muslim” is perfectly reasonable given your name and demographic situation (with Arabic text in your titlebar), and this certainly doesnt make one a racist to make this assumption.

            I hate racism in all its forms, but I stand with everthing ive got against Islam fighting it with ridicule, for fighting Islam is not “racism”, it is essentail and the less people take it seriously the safer the world will be. Islam is not a race its a  Theocracy intent on world domination.

            I would like to sincerely apologise if I hurt your feelings by being by calling a Muslim, I wouldnt do that to a dog… I genuinely mean it.

            Cheerio sweetheart xx (Mind you dont go talking with that REAL racist “CriticalDragon”)  LOL

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Dragon’s not a racist, he’s a good friend of mine. And I don’t like being patronized so you can cut the crap right there.

            Also it IS racist to assume a person is Muslim when they have an Arabic name, not because Islam is a race but because Arab IS a race, and not all of them are Muslim.

            What’s racist about you isn’t even that, it’s you insistence that my people don’t exist, when we’ve lived there for thousands of years. I’m not buying that you’re sorry for anything. I know your kind.

            Oh, and to keep from having to reply to the other reply you sent me, here’s a piece of info:

            I’M A GIRL.

            Just stop assuming shit because you’re outing yourself as a serial epic fail. You’ve bombed out at least 3 separate times now.

          • filthykafur

            Well, my dear..im a girlie too, isnt that nice? So whats that got to do with anything lovie?

            Look just check out ANYWHERE on the web, and youll see that the JEWS inherited that land of Israel from the maker of heaven and earth. If you read the scriptures youll read that Abraham had two sons, one was Isaac who got the inheritance of the land and one was Ishmael… and God said that he (Ishmael) would be a “Wild man” causing strife and grief all over the world (read the scriptures in Genesis and see for yourself) Ishmaels crowd eventually became the Muslims (who are destroying the world) …the muslims have tried and tried to get that part of Israel to be “Palestine” because they think its theirs  (Jordan really). The more senioor clerics of Islam know that Palestine is false.

            It has never been a “Country” just an area the muslims tried to get the world to call “Palestine”. Read the history yourself, im not stopping you.
            THERE IS NO PLACE OFFICIALLY KNOWN AS PALESTINE! Im sorry, you can stamp your feet and sulk if you want but Palestine as you know it isnt real, Jordan is.

            Now stop being cheeky, im 64 and know what im on about. Go and ask an adult about it.

            (AND I really AM sorry I called you a Muslim) Cant stand that impudent Dragon Breath person though LOL xx bye sweety xx

            Lets not speak anymore eh? I didnt ask you to contact me in the first place did I ?

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Wait, you’re an atheist and you’re quoting the Buybull as fact? What’s left of your credibility just went out the window.

          • filthykafur

            Truth does not change. Truth is truth. If something was true 50 years ago, 40 years ago, 30 years ago, it is still true today.

            And the truth is that only 30 years ago, there was very little confusion on this issue of Palestine.

            You might remember the late Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir making the bold political statement: “There is no such thing as a Palestinian people.”

            The statement has been a source of ridicule and derision by Arab propagandists ever since. They love to talk about Golda Meir’s “racism.” They love to suggest she was in historical denial. They love to say her statement is patently false – an intentional lie, a strategic deception.

            What they don’t like to talk about, however, are the very similar statements made by Yasser Arafat and his inner circle of political leadership years after Meir had told the truth – that there is no distinct Palestinian cultural or national identity.

            So, despite the fact that conventional wisdom has now proclaimed that there is such a thing as the Palestinian people, I’m going to raise those uncomfortable quotations made by Arafat and his henchmen when their public-relations guard was down.

            Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:
            The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.

            That’s pretty clear, isn’t it? It’s even more specific than Golda Meir’s statement. It reaffirms what I have written on this subject. And it is hardly the only such statement of its kind. Arafat himself made a very definitive and unequivocal statement along these lines as late as 1993. It demonstrates conclusively that the Palestinian nationhood argument is the real strategic deception – one geared to set up the destruction of Israel.

            In fact, on the same day Arafat signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993, he explained his actions on Jordan TV. Here’s what he said: “Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”

            No matter how many people convince themselves that the aspirations for Palestinian statehood are genuine and the key to peace in the Middle East, they are still deceiving themselves.

            I’ve said it before and I will say it again, in the history of the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. The region known as Palestine was ruled alternately by Rome, by Islamic and Christian crusaders, by the Ottoman Empire and, briefly, by the British after World War I. The British agreed to restore at least part of the land to the Jewish people as their ancestral homeland. It was never ruled by Arabs as a separate nation.

            Why now has it become such a critical priority?

            The answer is because of a massive deception campaign and relentless terrorism over 40 years.

            Golda Meir was right. Her statement is validated by the truth of history and by the candid, but not widely circulated, pronouncements of Arafat and his lieutenants.

            Israel and the West must not surrender to terrorism by granting the killers just what they want – a public relations triumph and a strategic victory. It’s not too late to say no to terrorism. It’s not too late to say no to another Arab terror state. It’s not too late to tell the truth about Palestine.

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          • filthykafur

            In the book of Genesis… Abraham gave Isaac the land, and Ishmael was called a “Wild man” who would creat uproar throughout the world. Ishmael eventually gave rise to the Muslims, who true to form started all the worlds problems, and tried the Palestine lie on.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Wow, what a cut-and-paste crap job. You couldn’t even filter out your ads. Where did you get this, the Hasbara For Dummies website?

            Oh, no, it’s from the WorldNutDaily website. Close enough. Seriously, do you think I’m going to take anything from a birther website seriously? Those morons think that Hezbollah has sleeper cells in the Midwest waiting to attack. Interestingly, they also think Hamas does too. Dumbasses.

            Seriously, if you can’t post anything from a place other than a paranoid schizophrenic right-wingnut crapspiracy website that sees a Muslim plot to take over the world at the bottom of a trash can or a cup of coffee than you’re just not worth taking seriously period, and will be relegated to nothing more than a laughingstock.

            http://www.palestineremembered.com

            This website beats the shit out of WorldNutDaily in the realms of sanity and factuality. It’s almost all facts and figures as well as some stories and FAQs for dummies like yourself. Of course, as a dedicated believer of crap posted by WND, I’ll say you’re a lost cause.

            Funny you say you’re an atheist but you believe everything you’re told by right-wing fright-wing sites. I’d think you’d question more, being an atheist hanging out on a predominantly Dominionist website, but, I guess not. There’s no requirement for atheists to be smart, just to not believe in any gods. It’s kinda sad, I’d like to see them add some requirements. It may cut idiots like you out of the loop, and save face for us rational thinkers, ’cause guys like you make us look bad.

            Your truth argument is bullshit. A lot of things change over 50 years. If my grandmother had brown hair 50 years ago but now she has gray hair, by your logic her hair would still be brown.

            By your logic, evolution would not be possible. Not necessarily something your fellow atheists, like myself, would be willing to agree with, considering there’s evidence of evolution everywhere.

            Also, I doubt Arafat ever said any of that,and even if he had’ve, George Habash never did, and Habash was a more noble character than Arafat, who was easily corrupted. Who knows how much he was paid to make that statement, if he actually ever made it. Experience has taught me to never trust a thing that comes from a Zionist’s mouth.

            All aside, the naming argument is pure bullshit and completely irrelevant. Names could be disputed, but what you CANNOT dispute is the fact that we’ve lived on that land for centuries, and there’s hard proof of that fact, that’s completely indisputable…even Israelis acknowledge this fact, and THAT is the fact that matters. We could have been called unicorns prior to 1948, still doesn’t change the fact we’ve had a presence in that land for well over 900 years.

            That’s the fact that you Ziotards ABSOLUTELY CANNOT deny, so you choose to focus on frivolous little things like names and such.

            Sorry, not fooling me.

            BTW Golda Meir was an ungrateful dried up old battle-ax. Any sane social justice advocate would be right to piss and shit on her grave.

          • filthykafur

            Calling you muslim doesnt make me a racist mate..what “race” is Islam? Its like saying you called me a Catholic so youre a racist? Silly boy.

            No I am not a racist, I hate racism in all its awful forms, but I detest Islam and fight it with ridicule wherever I find it, we must stop it to save the world from it.

            Im very sorry if I hurt your feelings calling you a muslim, I wouldnt say that to a dog.

            Bye my dear xx xx

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Um you know how you mentioned that you don’t trust Zionists in a later comment here.  I know a lot of them have done horrible things to Palestinians, maybe you’ve experienced the worst of the occupation.  I don’t want to argue with you.  However,
            Vicious Babushka is a Zionist, and she posted the same story about
            Al-Arifi on LGF, that Alernet wrote, that Loon Watch picked up, and she did so independently.

            How an Islamophobic Meme Can Spread Like Wildfire Across the Internet
            http://littlegreenfootballs.com/page/292180_How_an_Islamophobic_Meme_Can_S

            Even if her thinking is in some way wrong, she’s not a monster.  I’m no expert on the conflict, in fact I have to learn a lot more about it, but it seems to me that In the end, whether you like it or not, if there is to be peace between the Israelis and Palestinians, some type of agreement is going to have to be reached, and it will have to include Zionists, since the based on my understanding, the overwhelming majority of the people who are citizens of Israel are Zionists, and its unrealistic to expect them to just leave voluntarily.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            I know it’s hard for you to know how I feel, because unless you’ve lived through it, you can only imagine. I can’t and will never trust Zionists. It is impossible. I’ve tried and always end up being disappointed. Zionism is an evil ideology. It has racist supremacy stamped all over it. I can’t feel comfortable or trust the ideology that motivated people to murder and expel hundreds of thousands of my brethren. It just isn’t happening. That’s not something you can easily come back from. I hope you never have to experience it.

  • http://twitter.com/R__O__D Roderick Bateman

    In the 60′s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to massive non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face the consequences for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now these anti-whites are counting down the days until white children will be minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. This is Genocide. “Ant-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

    • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

      Roderick Bateman

      So you’re one of those “white genocide” people?  Please take a deep breath, look around you and think for a moment.  There is no conspiracy among the elites in majority white nations to destroy the white “race” and most of the elites in all of those societies are white themselves.  Explain what they would get out of destroying their own race.  There is no “white genocide” and “anti racist” isn’t a code word for “anti white.”  I’m certainly anti racism, and I’m not anti white.  In fact, being anti white is incompatible with being anti racism, because to be anti white, is to be racist against white people.

      • RayPrice

         ”There is no conspiracy among the elites in majority white nations to
        destroy the white “race” and most of the elites in all of those
        societies are white themselves.”

        You are just denying it – evidence supports Roderick’s point.  The elites are certainly not White.

        Do you support massive non-Jewish immigration in to Israel?   Yes or no?

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

          No, it does not.  You need to wake up from your little racist nightmare.  There is no white genocide.

          WHITE GENOCIDE DEBUNKED
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCPg1KYkOOQ&list=PL1CBC54A096988287&index=2

          • http://twitter.com/R__O__D Roderick Bateman

            Ya I saw that. He’s wrong. In the 60′s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face consequences for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are counting down the days till ALL and ONLY white children become minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. It’s genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            No its not, since no one is mass murdering white people In Europe, North America or Australia. Also, no one forced majority white nations to open up there borders anyway.   Oh and stop with the stupid and equally nonsensical “anti racist is a codeword for anti white” mantra.

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

          Also, Israel’s immigration policy is not relevant here. What I think of it, has nothing to do with the truth or false hood of your ridiculous claims.

          • RayPrice

             ”Also, Israel’s immigration policy is not relevant here…..”

            Pretty easy to corner you, I see.  ANSWER THE QUESTION!

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            Only after you refute me and the True Pooka and prove that there actually is a white genocide.

          • RayPrice

            All I have to do is say “look at the Democrats embracing it after the election.”

            Why are you avoiding the question, though?   Because you are caught.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

             No Because I don’t want to talk about  Israel’s immigration policy.

        • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

           Oh and one more thing I forgot to ask, if most of the elites in places like France, England and America are not white, as you claim, what particular “race” are they?

    • http://twitter.com/BigWhinyBaby Big Whiny Baby

      Look at this literal child.

    • RayPrice

       Thanks for spreading the truth.

      • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

         More like racism and lies.

        • http://twitter.com/R__O__D Roderick Bateman

          Typical anti-white response. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            You’re truly pathetic, just repeating that stupid mantra, as if repeating it, somehow made it true

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            This just in: White guy pitches fit. World not impressed. Details at eleven.

    • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

      I clicked on a link and was directed here. How in the world did I end up here? Roderick you’re effing crazy. I think I stumbled into a mental asylum. A neo-nazi mental asylum….

      • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

         I kind of feel the same way.  I don’t know why so many antisemites, racists and Islamophobes are hanging out here.  I don’t know why, this clearly isn’t a hate site.  It seems that you and I and one or two other people are the only “anti loons” here, to use Loon Watch’s terminology.

        • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

          It seems that the nuts have infested the entire internet as of late. The only good thing about them is they keep things exciting and they allow for some serious decompression on my part. I love taking my anger out on ‘em.

          • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

            If you want, you could take some of your anger out on Filthykafur than, who’s trying to argue that Palestine and Palestinians never actually existed, and the terms as we understand them now were just invented to destroy Israel, or you could take on Darthkuriboh, who’s basically arguing that segregation and apartheid are a good things and without them there would be genocide.  You could also take on anyone of the “white genocide” losers here as well.

          • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

            Where have I heard that meme before? When are they going to quit with the “we don’t exist” nonsense. We’re as real as any other human being.

  • RayPrice

    Why should “Jews” get a homeland paid for by everyone else – Whites should have a homeland, then.

    • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

      Grow up.

    • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

      Ya do, it’s called over half the world you’ve occupied and put under your thumb. That includes Palestine. Please get out and take yer Zionists with ya.

  • http://twitter.com/R__O__D Roderick Bateman

    In the 60′s, anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white countries to open their borders to non-white immigration. Then anti-whites forced ALL and ONLY white people to “integrate” or face consequences for being “naziswhowantokill6millionjews.” Now anti-whites are counting down the days till ALL and ONLY white children become minorities and eventually extinct EVERYWHERE. It’s genocide. “Anti-racist” is a codeword for anti-white.

    • http://twitter.com/CriticalDragon1 CriticalDragon1177

      Never happened, and please stop with your stupid mantras, repeating them over and over again, including the ridiculous “‘anti racist is anti white” and the just ridiculous “if you oppose genocide against the white people, they’ll compare you to “Nazis who wants to kill 6 million Jews.’”  Which oddly enough, you forgot to put spaces between the words.

    • http://jabhawiyya.tumblr.com/ jabhawiya

      That’s a real gem you posted there, and by “gem” I mean you crapped on the thread.