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	<title>Comments on: In Kenya, Violent Elephant Poaching Increases at an Alarming Rate</title>
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		<title>By: Sharon Kahara</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2013/01/in-kenya-violent-elephant-poaching-increases-at-an-alarming-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-27446</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon Kahara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 04:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason I&#039;m against a &quot;shoot to kill&quot; policy is not because I empathize with poachers of any color.  I&#039;m against a tit for tat policy that is vengeful and only satisfies our immediate blood-lust.  Believe me, folks in developed countries also weighed in on the same debate and strongly advocated to shoot Africans if they got the chance.  What they don&#039;t understand is that life is very cheap in Africa, and so such a policy though shocking in the developed world is laughable in Africa.  

My argument is simple - shooting a few poachers today only drives prices up as the replacement poachers demand more from traffikers for their dangerous work.   The Asian dealers care very little for African lives lost and so it stands that Africans should be the first to value their own lives enough (yes poachers as well as rangers) to make this an issue of national priority.  Shooting poachers is a simplistic approach and destroys our ability to track the real villains - the traffickers.  

There are many other ideas - even &quot;flooding the market with fake horns&quot; that should be taken into consideration BEFORE shooting the very people who may be our best hope for future conservation. I&#039;m a wildlifer and I know that tracking animals even as large as elephants and rhinos is hard work.  You need to be hardy, ready to spend long hours in harsh hot/cold/ dusty conditions.  I would hire ex-poachers for wildlife work in a second if I had the money.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason I&#8217;m against a &#8220;shoot to kill&#8221; policy is not because I empathize with poachers of any color.  I&#8217;m against a tit for tat policy that is vengeful and only satisfies our immediate blood-lust.  Believe me, folks in developed countries also weighed in on the same debate and strongly advocated to shoot Africans if they got the chance.  What they don&#8217;t understand is that life is very cheap in Africa, and so such a policy though shocking in the developed world is laughable in Africa.  </p>
<p>My argument is simple &#8211; shooting a few poachers today only drives prices up as the replacement poachers demand more from traffikers for their dangerous work.   The Asian dealers care very little for African lives lost and so it stands that Africans should be the first to value their own lives enough (yes poachers as well as rangers) to make this an issue of national priority.  Shooting poachers is a simplistic approach and destroys our ability to track the real villains &#8211; the traffickers.  </p>
<p>There are many other ideas &#8211; even &#8220;flooding the market with fake horns&#8221; that should be taken into consideration BEFORE shooting the very people who may be our best hope for future conservation. I&#8217;m a wildlifer and I know that tracking animals even as large as elephants and rhinos is hard work.  You need to be hardy, ready to spend long hours in harsh hot/cold/ dusty conditions.  I would hire ex-poachers for wildlife work in a second if I had the money.  </p>
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		<title>By: On Dre</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2013/01/in-kenya-violent-elephant-poaching-increases-at-an-alarming-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-27407</link>
		<dc:creator>On Dre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2013 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these were white americans poaching wildlife I would have the same &#039;shoot to kill policy&#039;.  I have supported the Congo Rangers via Wildlife direct and accourding to their stories these are not simply small time criminals in the shadows but well armed syndicates.  No nation would or should allows groups like these operating in their borders.  I fail to see how targeting a few poachers would not be as effective as changing 1 billion peoples minds however, I do admit I could be wrong.  I do agree with you that a multi pronged strategy must be taken.  One comment from another board struke my interest.  Take cow hoofs and flood the market with counterfet &quot;horns&quot;.  I dont know...All I can do is send what litte I can to those who I hope will do the most good with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these were white americans poaching wildlife I would have the same &#8216;shoot to kill policy&#8217;.  I have supported the Congo Rangers via Wildlife direct and accourding to their stories these are not simply small time criminals in the shadows but well armed syndicates.  No nation would or should allows groups like these operating in their borders.  I fail to see how targeting a few poachers would not be as effective as changing 1 billion peoples minds however, I do admit I could be wrong.  I do agree with you that a multi pronged strategy must be taken.  One comment from another board struke my interest.  Take cow hoofs and flood the market with counterfet &#8220;horns&#8221;.  I dont know&#8230;All I can do is send what litte I can to those who I hope will do the most good with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Kahara</title>
		<link>http://www.theworld.org/2013/01/in-kenya-violent-elephant-poaching-increases-at-an-alarming-rate/comment-page-1/#comment-27358</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon Kahara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I listened to this story with deep sadness.  I&#039;m a Kenyan Wildlife Ecologist working in California.  Gettleman was right that Kenyans feel a strong sense of pride when it comes to their wildlife.  I&#039;ve read many angry posts on Facebook concerning the latest poaching incidents - Kenyans reactions have been that of outrage and I share that.  

But the point at which I differ from many Kenyans is that I DO NOT believe killing poachers is the solution.  Gettleman noted that a full on war on poachers would not solve the problem.  One facebook page that goes under the name of &quot;Kenya Wildlife Service&quot; (Though I&#039;m not sure if this is the official KWS FB page), asks &quot;Would you support a &#039;shoot to kill policy&#039; as a way of protecting our Elephants and Rhinos?&quot; I think this was the saddest thing I&#039;ve ever heard of in my life!! Almost everyone said yes!  (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151343149622904&amp;set=a.367218657903.155338.196213227903&amp;type=1)Africa is already hair -roots deep in violence, murder, war and rape and here we are calling for more, more, more!! no wonder the world shakes its communal head at poor violent Africa.  We are perpetrating that stereotype to a tee.  Illegal Ivory and rhino horn trading will not stop just because more poor Africans were shot and killed without trial - but it MIGHT end if we work aggressively to tackle the unfounded &quot;Chinese Medicine&quot; claims and make it part of our global policy to put (economic?) pressure on nations that traffic Ivory and other wildlife parts.  Shame  them and then hit them where it hurts.  The problem is that as long as Africans are more than willing to shoot themselves over it, the less likely any other nation will actively get involved in pressuring China. 

All nations are entitled to their traditional beliefs and practices, but when it is deemed harmful to humanity (e.g., female genital mutilation), or to our wildlife, then it must be stopped.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I listened to this story with deep sadness.  I&#8217;m a Kenyan Wildlife Ecologist working in California.  Gettleman was right that Kenyans feel a strong sense of pride when it comes to their wildlife.  I&#8217;ve read many angry posts on Facebook concerning the latest poaching incidents &#8211; Kenyans reactions have been that of outrage and I share that.  </p>
<p>But the point at which I differ from many Kenyans is that I DO NOT believe killing poachers is the solution.  Gettleman noted that a full on war on poachers would not solve the problem.  One facebook page that goes under the name of &#8220;Kenya Wildlife Service&#8221; (Though I&#8217;m not sure if this is the official KWS FB page), asks &#8220;Would you support a &#8216;shoot to kill policy&#8217; as a way of protecting our Elephants and Rhinos?&#8221; I think this was the saddest thing I&#8217;ve ever heard of in my life!! Almost everyone said yes!  (<a href="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151343149622904&#038;set=a.367218657903.155338.196213227903&#038;type=1" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151343149622904&#038;set=a.367218657903.155338.196213227903&#038;type=1</a>)Africa is already hair -roots deep in violence, murder, war and rape and here we are calling for more, more, more!! no wonder the world shakes its communal head at poor violent Africa.  We are perpetrating that stereotype to a tee.  Illegal Ivory and rhino horn trading will not stop just because more poor Africans were shot and killed without trial &#8211; but it MIGHT end if we work aggressively to tackle the unfounded &#8220;Chinese Medicine&#8221; claims and make it part of our global policy to put (economic?) pressure on nations that traffic Ivory and other wildlife parts.  Shame  them and then hit them where it hurts.  The problem is that as long as Africans are more than willing to shoot themselves over it, the less likely any other nation will actively get involved in pressuring China. </p>
<p>All nations are entitled to their traditional beliefs and practices, but when it is deemed harmful to humanity (e.g., female genital mutilation), or to our wildlife, then it must be stopped.  </p>
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