Beppe Grillo, The Man at the Heart of Italy’s Political Gridlock

The big winners of Italy’s elections, former comedian Beppe Grillo and his anti-establishment Five Star Movement, are rejecting any talk of forming a ruling coalition and rattling the markets in the process.

Anchor Marco Werman has excerpts of an interview Grillo gave the BBC Wednesday, explaining his thinking, and a clip from 20 years ago where Grillo tells a joke that still sounds relevant.